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Security => Security Software Programs => Topic started by: LoneWanderer on September 21, 2016, 06:52:53 AM

Title: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: LoneWanderer on September 21, 2016, 06:52:53 AM
Greetings from the Great Country of TEXAS,

Anyone using Fyodor's 'nMap.exe' with 'Zenmap.exe' for Windows?  Attempting to learn some of what can and cannot be done using this scanning software.  An experimenter with some much more advanced than my experience, just want to ask some questions if possible.
Title: Re: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: Corrine on September 21, 2016, 11:04:30 AM
Sorry, this is the first I've heard about it.  The only thing I found other than numerous sites to download it was McAfee listing it as a PUP:  Tool-Nmap | Threat Profile & Definition | McAfee Inc. (https://home.mcafee.com/virusinfo/virusprofile.aspx?key=100955#none).
Title: Re: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: Digerati on September 21, 2016, 02:11:40 PM
I did not even know nmap was still around.

I am surprised McAfee tags it as a PUP. I guess because it can be misused by bad guys. I used to use nmap years ago, now I just use netstat if I need to. I have never used zenmap.
Title: Re: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: LoneWanderer on September 27, 2016, 05:43:25 PM
Corrine,

Not a problem if you are not familiar with it, will move to another forum to ask.  You may wish to choose a different word than "sorry" as that is telling the other you are not worthy.  I feel you and all that post helpful messages here are very WORTHY people and GOOD included.  Maybe use 'apologize' would be better.  Look up the def in a dictionary when you have a chance

Sorry, this is the first I've heard about it.  The only thing I found other than numerous sites to download it was McAfee listing it as a PUP:  Tool-Nmap | Threat Profile & Definition | McAfee Inc. (https://home.mcafee.com/virusinfo/virusprofile.aspx?key=100955#none).
Title: Re: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: LoneWanderer on September 27, 2016, 05:52:09 PM
Digerati.

Oh yes, it is and can be run from within Windows or a Command Line, there are some features that work in Linux that will not work within Windows, but; feel it may assist me in keeping up with my system.  Just need to learn a few thingys first.  Fyodor has used the Google summer of programming to get some assistance from students as well as improve exponentially nMap and ZenMap (for windows) for the last several years.  You should go to his site and see what is going on.

That is McAfee's problem, my antivirus does not tag it nor any other security software on my system.  They play well together.

I did not even know nmap was still around.

I am surprised McAfee tags it as a PUP. I guess because it can be misused by bad guys. I used to use nmap years ago, now I just use netstat if I need to. I have never used zenmap.
Title: Re: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: Digerati on September 27, 2016, 06:02:23 PM
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You may wish to choose a different word than "sorry" as that is telling the other you are not worthy.
Huh? "Sorry" but I think you have a "sorry" grasp of the English language and grammar usage. Did you look it up before telling others to? "Sorry", but it would seem not. :(

Look in any dictionary and you will see the first (thus primary) definition for sorry (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sorry) is "feeling sorrow" or "regret". It is used it is most common used in a sentence as a polite way to express regret or to convey bad news in a polite way.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sorry
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sorry

The way she said it implied she regretted she (like you, BTW) did not know the answer. In no way did it mean she was less than worthy. And of course, anyone who knew this site, or Corrine, would know better.

So, I am sorry I could not help you either.

Title: Re: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: LoneWanderer on September 27, 2016, 06:32:41 PM
Digerati,

In my "Webster's NEW UNIVERSAL UNABRIDGED DICTIONARY" there are three (3) definitions for 'sorry' #1 is what you refer to and the other two (2) #2. inferior in worth or quality; poor; as, a sorry exhibition of acting. #3. wretched; miserable; dismal; pitiful; as,a slum is a sorry place.  Majority rules, is this OK by you?  I am not saying she is that, just pointing out the English language has many contradictive usages of their words.

Actually you may use it any way you wish, mine is apologizing instead of saying I'm sorry, which is not really true, I do whatever I can to HELP another in any way possible.  Thank you for your opinion

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You may wish to choose a different word than "sorry" as that is telling the other you are not worthy.
Huh? "Sorry" but I think you have a "sorry" grasp of the English language and grammar usage. Did you look it up before telling others to? "Sorry", but it would seem not. :(

Look in any dictionary and you will see the first (thus primary) definition for sorry (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sorry) is "feeling sorrow" or "regret". It is used it is most common used in a sentence as a polite way to express regret or to convey bad news in a polite way.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sorry (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sorry)
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sorry (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sorry)

The way she said it implied she regretted she (like you, BTW) did not know the answer. In no way did it mean she was less than worthy. And of course, anyone who knew this site, or Corrine, would know better.

So, I am sorry I could not help you either.
Title: Re: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: Ghost on September 27, 2016, 08:23:49 PM
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Title: Re: nmap by Fyodor
Post by: Digerati on September 28, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: LoneWanderer
Actually you may use it any way you wish
:( When "writing" (or speaking), yes, you may use them any way you wish - IF it makes sense for the subject. But when "reading" (or listening), you use the definition that applies to the context of the sentence subject! To not understand that suggests a "sorry" understanding of how communication, grammar, and in this case, dictionaries (and primary definitions) work.

"Ted Williams was the greatest baseball hitter of all time. When he swung that bat, it was artistry in motion". If you interpreted that as him swinging a flying mammal, then it is you who failed to grasp the context.

If you believe someone would interpret the sentence, "Sorry, this is the first I've heard about it." as "Oh Great and Mighty LoneWanderer, forgive me my unworthiness for not having the answers you seek.", then you sure have a different and loftier impression of yourself than I see.

Forget the fact that Corrine is an Admin on this site, has over 17,000 posts on this site alone, has been a Microsoft MVP for over 10 years, runs her own successful security oriented blog and much, much more. You telling another poster to "look it up in the dictionary" was just rude!

But then on top of that, you came back and demonstrated you fail to understand - or worse, fail to accept :( - that what she said was right - even after you, yourself noted the #1 definition for "sorry" shows she was just being polite to you by expressing regret. That's just sorry!  ::)


Since I too am unworthy for not knowing the ins and outs of these programs, I recommend you visit their sites or use Google (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+nmap+and+what+is+it+used+for%3F).