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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2009, 10:06:19 PM »
I'm certainly glad I put your machine through security review first as I might not have gotten your attention long enough if I'd posted those links first.  :lol:

It is generally indicated that between 35 and 50°C is about right.  Anything approaching 65-70°C would be reason for concern, which is what you have likely been experiencing while playing games. I haven't heard back from my friend yet -- but I am hoping that he can add some insight as he has considerable background.

In the meantime, bear with me as I remind you that having a firewall, anti-virus and anti-malware software are not enough.  You also need to stay current with security updates.  If you don't have your computer set to automatically install the Microsoft Security Updates, please check for updates now.  For additional information, see my blog post Understanding Microsoft Updates

To check if your system is missing security updates or has insecure applications installed, visit http://secunia.com/software_inspector/ .  The Secunia Software Inspector runs through your browser with no installation or download required and does the following:
  • Detects insecure versions of applications installed
  • Verifies that all Microsoft patches are applied
  • Assists you in updating your system and applications

My favorite security software is WinPatrol which includes the features described at http://www.winpatrol.com/features.html


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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2009, 11:04:39 PM »
MRMADDOODLE  ... I hope you don't mind that I edited the language in your post on the last page.   :D
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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2009, 03:55:24 AM »
Hi MRMADDOODLE,

Corrine asked if there was something I could add here but it looks like she has all the basis covered. This does sound like it could be heat related and cooling pads can be a big help. I generally prefer a Notebook Cooling Pad with an external power supply, however. The external supply is not very convenient for the traveler, but it just seem counterproductive to me to place a greater demand on the notebooks power circuits, thus causing them to generate more heat, when you are trying to keep heat under control. Of course alternatively, you could blast a desk fan across and under the notebook too.

Does this problem only happen when you are gaming? Does it work fine otherwise? Note that in spite of what all the marketing hype says, notebooks do NOT make good game machines. 3D animated gaming is just about the most demanding task we can ask of a computer, placing huge demands on system cooling. This is often a challenge in PCs where cooling options are more plentiful, and efficient. Notebook cases don't allow for large fans and good cooling, and they are nearly impossible for a normal user to thoroughly clean all the heat trapping dust that has been sucked inside. Has this machine ever been thoroughly cleaned?

You seem to have plenty of free disk space. How is your Page File setup? You said your memory isn't full but your HJT log said nearly 1/2 of your RAM was being used. Have you tried to cut back on some of the stuff getting loaded at boot?

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atm im working on the volts that the battery puts in the CPU to reduce the overheating,
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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2009, 09:14:35 AM »
MRMADDOODLE  ... I hope you don't mind that I edited the language in your post on the last page.   :D

Sorry, didn't read any of the rules or anything

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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2009, 09:22:37 AM »
Hi MRMADDOODLE,

Corrine asked if there was something I could add here but it looks like she has all the basis covered. This does sound like it could be heat related and cooling pads can be a big help. I generally prefer a Notebook Cooling Pad with an external power supply, however. The external supply is not very convenient for the traveler, but it just seem counterproductive to me to place a greater demand on the notebooks power circuits, thus causing them to generate more heat, when you are trying to keep heat under control. Of course alternatively, you could blast a desk fan across and under the notebook too.

Does this problem only happen when you are gaming? Does it work fine otherwise? Note that in spite of what all the marketing hype says, notebooks do NOT make good game machines. 3D animated gaming is just about the most demanding task we can ask of a computer, placing huge demands on system cooling. This is often a challenge in PCs where cooling options are more plentiful, and efficient. Notebook cases don't allow for large fans and good cooling, and they are nearly impossible for a normal user to thoroughly clean all the heat trapping dust that has been sucked inside. Has this machine ever been thoroughly cleaned?

You seem to have plenty of free disk space. How is your Page File setup? You said your memory isn't full but your HJT log said nearly 1/2 of your RAM was being used. Have you tried to cut back on some of the stuff getting loaded at boot?

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atm im working on the volts that the battery puts in the CPU to reduce the overheating,
If you are overclocking, I recommend you don't - at least not until this is resolved.

The problem happens when I load something that require's a lot from my Processors so they run at maximum capacity which is normally when I'm playing a game some of the game's I've tried are Dawn of War 2, Company of Heroes, Counter Strike Source, Team Fortress 2, Empire Total War and it did it on all of them accept 1 game :P Stronghold Crusader Extreme seemed to be just fine but i don't think the requirements are huge, anyway then they overheat causing the throttle to come in and basically take 1 of the processors off and slow it down once it's cooled it goes back to max and over heats and it goes on :P.

I changed my page setup back to the old window's took all the vista stuff out if that's what you mean. I'm not sure about the RAM but i think there are quite a few thing's loading up at the start that don't need to be. I haven't undervolted yet I've just changed the throttle so it doesn't turn off when it goes highish.

About the RAM how else can I reduce how much I'm using?

And thank's a lot for the help at first i thought yeh my laptop's just slow and then i saw some video's of people playing Call of Duty and stuff on the Aspire :P

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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2009, 12:32:37 PM »
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About the RAM how else can I reduce how much I'm using?
By unloading (or not loading) stuff you don't need - though I don't think that is the main problem here, but it may be contributing. Start by looking in the Startup folder of your Start Menu. Those are shortcuts you can simply delete (or move out to another folder for now). That will not uninstall the program, just keep it from starting during boot. Look in your System Tray - any programs running there you don't really need? Open each up and find the menu option to disable "Start with Windows" options. Finally, you can run MSCONFIG and look under the Startup tab to see what is being loaded, and uncheck those you don't need. If unsure, don't uncheck it - plug it into Google or ask back here. Do not run without your security applications.
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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2009, 01:06:08 PM »
Thank you, Bill.  I appreciate that you took the time to consult.  :rose:

MRMADDOODLE, if you wish, post a fresh HijackThis log and we can take a fresh look at Startup programs.  In addition, you can use WinPatrol to more easily control Startup programs, either safely removing them from Startup without removing the program or adding to delayed start.


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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2009, 07:31:52 PM »
what does Core Load and OS Load mean? because when im playing my game there both at 50% for both core's and it's causing my game's to slow a little, both the core's are working at max but i don't think there putting any of the power into my game RMClock showed me this, i then tested the Orthos program on it and the CPU Load and OS Load both shot to 100% for both core's now to me it looks like something wrong :P

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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2009, 08:00:34 PM »
just restored my laptop bk so i can redo everything

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Re: Aspire 6920 runs fast like really smooth then goes slow and then fast again
« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2009, 08:07:52 PM »
what does Core Load and OS Load mean? because when im playing my game there both at 50% for both core's and it's causing my game's to slow a little, both the core's are working at max but i don't think there putting any of the power into my game RMClock showed me this, i then tested the Orthos program on it and the CPU Load and OS Load both shot to 100% for both core's now to me it looks like something wrong :P
I assume you mean CPU Load and not Core Load.

I am not a gamer but understand that not all programs take advantage of every hardware option, including multiple cores. That said, I don't use RMClock. You might want to check the RightMark forum but it would appear that particular program might prefer running in a single core. Assuming all your drivers are current, and if everything else works fine, I would not suspect this to be a hardware "problem". If your CPU is toggling down due to heat, then the computer is working fine. I note again, notebooks don't allow for decent cooling, especially for gaming.

This is getting old, but shows the point - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/94969-13-dual-core-supported-games

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Well then you need to make sure you get fully updated and all your security running fine BEFORE testing games again.
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