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Offline zumlif

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Hard disk problems
« on: December 13, 2006, 01:37:46 PM »
I have a 40g hard disk which doesn't get "recognised" every so often. I bought an 80g disk and cloned my 40g disk on to it with Acronis disk cloning program. I made the 8og disk the master and the 40g the slave and ensured the boot sequence was correct. If I disconnect the 40g disk the machine boots up to the "Loading settings" window then "Logging off" appears and then hangs. If  I connect the 40g as slave the machine boots from the slave and I get a message "Generic Host Process for Win32 Services has encountered a problem and needs to close etc." If I cancel this notice quickly the machine remains booted and operational until my 40g slave disk decides to go on strike. If I try to boot in "Safe mode" only using the 80g disk  the 3 windows appear in very rapid succession and it won't boot. I was coming to the conclusion that I must reload Windows but how do I ensure it loads on to the 80g disk?
2.4g cpu 512 ram 40g & 80g hdd, xp & sp2

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Re: Hard disk problems
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 05:39:14 PM »
i can be wrong!!!

but  does it call the 80 gig drive C  and the 40 gig say drive D

windows wants to boot from drive C

with just one drive it will call that drive C

a possible hickup in the cloning software?


is the size of the files the same since it should be a copy?

just a couple of guesses?

i have used norton's ghost and it worked for me on cloning, i did it one at a time and then formatted the drive D so it would not see the boot sector and try to boot off of two drives at the same time !
and with the disconnect you were doing power/ribbon cable AND jumpers for "master/slave  "????

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Re: Hard disk problems
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2006, 09:42:38 PM »
there's a (set of) jumper(s) on the back of each hard drive.  they can be set to master, slave, or cs (cable select):
1) if both drives are on different ide cables, then both drives should be set to master or cs, and set at the end of the cable.
2) if both drives are on the same ide cable, then if one drive is set to master, the other must be slave. ensure that the master goes on the end, and the slave in the middle.
3) either 1 or 2 drives per cable - if set to cable select, the one on the end becomes master, and the one in the middle becomes slave
4)in any case, ensure that the correct end is in the motherboard, etc.
5)o, yeah, probably ide port 0 becomes the first, or "c" drive and port 1 becomes the second drive.  it gets complicated after that as nt operating systems like xp can move drive letters around like there's no tommorrow (and if you do do that, there may not be!)

having said that, some hd's do not like some other hard drives, and may not play well together.

if you are indeed going to reload, xp will give you the option very early on to delete existing partitions.
but if you must reload, consider the microsoft utility "delpart" (oddly enough, not available for download at microsoft, but it is available on the internet.)  use bootable media with a copy of that on it, and drop the partition of your hard drive(s) to start clean.
=== w a r n i n g === that, of course means you will loose everything on the drive(s) on which you use that tool.  sooo... did we mention backup?

anyway, when you put in your xp cd and boot from it, you can choose which drive to put it on and you can create a 10 or 12gb partition and format it ntfs (do not choose quick) and... you can even create the rest of your partitions, as desired and the xp installation program will set 'em up and format 'em as you've specified.  kinda cool.

ooo did we type too much?? :o  :breakkie:
ps edited to add 5)

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Re: Hard disk problems
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 09:53:45 AM »
Hello all,
Thank you for your responses but I am back again with problems.
I reinstalled XP+SP2 on to my 80g hard disk with only partial success. I know what to do with jumpers and have set the 80 to master and the 40 as slave on the same IDE cable. There are 2 IDE outlets on my motherboard,1 for hard disks and the other for CD roms. Everything then boots up ok except that the desktop ikons seem to refer to either the 80 disk or the 40 disk at random. The boot sequence is the 80 (E:drive) first and the 40 (C:drive) second. The E: drive appears to be the system drive because I can't change the drive letter. A legend appears that says I cannot change the drive letter on the E: drive because it is the system drive. If I disconnect the C: drive (40g) I can't boot from the E:drive alone. Windows starts up, "Windows is starting" appears then "Loading your settings" but then a 3rd. window with "Logging off" appears and the machine then hangs and I have to try and restart. If I try to start in safe mode the 3 windows appear in rapid succession repeatedly until I close down. If I reconnect the C: drive (40g) the system often boots up OK. Unfortunately every so often the C: drive gives up, the machine hangs and on restarting the bios wants to boot off a floppy and I have reset the boot order in the bios. Has anybody any ideas? It is extremely irritating especially if I am inthe middle of Word or Excel. Once I can get the 80g disk to perform properly I will discard the 40g disk completely.