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Offline DR M

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Is Firedrive safe?
« on: May 02, 2014, 06:37:18 PM »
Hello all!!  :mitch:

A friend gave me a link to a movie, that plays in Firedrive. I can see the movie through this page, and I also have the opportunity to download it with a Firefox add on. Is it safe or is something like torrents?

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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2014, 11:42:46 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firedrive

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Firedrive, formerly known as PutLocker, is a UK-based cloud storage and file hosting service founded in 2010. If offers 50GB free storage and other premium paid plans. Forbes included FireDrive in their top 6 “Cloud Storage for Entepreneurs”.[2]
PutLocker was re-branded as "Firedrive" on February 12, 2014, and became a cloud storage platform service.

That quote and the link has more info and links about it.

Under the Legal Issues section:

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After Megaupload's shutdown, PutLocker's traffic was "on the rise" according to Chris King, a director of product marketing with Palo Alto Networks.[8] The site has been named as one of five "rogue sites" by a Paramount Pictures executive on March 31, 2012 at the On Copyright conference.[9] The site responded with a statement on April 3, 2012.[10] PutLocker maintains that it's fully compliant with the standards laid out in the DMCA, reviewing and serializing any reported content that is deemed in breach of their terms of service.[11] This is proven, as pronounced, by the fact that less than two-percent of the files uploaded to their servers are subsequently flagged as infringing of copyright. This is, in their words "A strong indication of the amount of legitimate usage we provide to the online community".

Furthermore, PutLocker claimed its corporate structure was never designed to evade authorities;[12] in fact it states that it cooperates with law enforcement agencies when necessary as outlined in the privacy policy.
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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2014, 06:05:10 AM »
So, I could download the movie from there? What do you think?

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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2014, 02:01:35 PM »
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So, I could download the movie from there? What do you think?
To be very blunt, it would make you a thief! Assuming the movie is copyrighted and not released into the "public domain", if you downloaded that movie it would be the same thing as you walking into Walmart, stuffing the DVD in your pants and walking out the store without paying!!! And your friend who uploaded the movie and made it available for others to copy without collecting and paying the necessary copyright royalties would be an accomplice, a software pirate, a co-conspirator (with you!) in a fraud against the movie industry! 

Furthermore, because badguys are known to release their "new" (the most dangerous kind) malware via pirated copies of tunes and videos via illegal filesharing sites, you risk subjecting your computers and your users to threats from badguys.

Bottom line - if you want to see the movie, buy it, or rent (or pay-per-view) it through legal channels. Or go to his house and watch it there (perfectly legal, as long as he is not charging you to watch).
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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2014, 02:41:27 PM »
To add to Bill's comments, I visited a couple of their web pages and Mbam immediately blocked the content. So beware!!
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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2014, 03:55:06 PM »
Thank you all! I didn't downloaded anything, because I wanted to know about it first.

Digerati, my friend did not upload the movie. He just sent me the link. It is a link in a web page with movies, and all of them open in Firedrive. Although, the illegal issue here concerns to this particular site and not Firedrive. Right?

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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2014, 04:20:46 PM »
Well, if your friend downloaded this movie, and if this movie is still copyrighted (as the vast majority are), then he is certainly guilty of violating copyright and "intellectual property" rights laws, as you would be if you downloaded them without the proper compensations.

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Although, the illegal issue here concerns to this particular site and not Firedrive. Right?
I don't know what you mean by "this particular site". What site? If "Firedrive.com" is "accommodating" illegal filesharing by condoning or turning a blind eye to these illegal practices, then Firedrive could be held liable too.

If nothing else, there are some morality and ethical issues here. If drug dealers are selling heroin in your backyard and you know it, can you be found guilty? Probably not unless you partake in or otherwise benefit from the activities. But even if you don't, should you allow it to continue and just turn a blind eye? We all know what the right thing to do is.

BTW, in just checking out Firedrive, I see it is also loaded with porn. Porn is also a common source of malware.
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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2014, 04:34:49 PM »
Digerati,

I mean that the site with all these movies has the issue.

But what if some people started to upload in Dropbox or One Drive these movies? Then Dropbox and One Drive would be guildy? Is there a way for Dropbox, One Drive etc. to know what is being uploaded? If yes, I agree that they do blind eyes. That's why I refered to Firedrive in my last post. Of course, I don't know yet if I caught the point about what firedrive exactly is.  :smiley:

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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2014, 05:06:51 PM »
If you use Firedrive, I would use it for the legal sources only. It's not the site but the content and content uploaders that could be the dangers. Also, if someone is uploading illegal content, Firedrive depends on people to let them know it's there.

You are only asking for trouble if you go to the illegal sources.

Best to keep to links that are safe.

So many people having trouble with even legal sites hit with malware. Personally I would not ask for trouble. ;)
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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2014, 05:31:14 PM »
Personally I would not ask for trouble. ;)

Neither I!  :GRAFX:

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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2014, 05:56:00 PM »
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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2014, 01:21:52 PM »
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But what if some people started to upload in Dropbox or One Drive these movies? Then Dropbox and One Drive would be guildy?
You can legally upload a movie you legally obtained to "your" Dropbox, as long as ONLY YOU (or folks in your household) have access to it. That is, as long as it is for YOUR PERSONAL USE ONLY, then no problem.

But if you grant access to others to your Dropbox so they can make copies of those movies, then you may be guilty of illegal distribution of copyrighted materials, and your buddies of making illegal copies.

The issue here is all about distributing (and receiving) copies of copyrighted materials without paying the necessary compensation/royalties.

Firesafe appears to be accommodating illegal filesharing by allowing folks to make copies of copyrighted materials uploaded by others.

And BTW, while every country has their own unique set of "intellectual property" (IP) and "copyright" laws, the United Nations has a full set of IP policies, treaties, regulations and by-laws that universally protect IP and copyright concerns that EVERY MEMBER NATION must abide by. Sadly, the UN and most member countries do not have, or have not funded the necessary resources to enforce those UN by-laws. And sadly, some countries use piracy as a source of revenue and/or graft.
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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2014, 05:29:33 PM »
Thanks, Digerati.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2014, 12:03:31 PM »
FIREDRIVE IS NOT SAFE - PERIOD - ITS BEEN DOWN FOR WEEKS

NO COMMUNICATIONS, NO EXPLANATIONS, NO RESPONSES, NO APOLOGIES, NO FACEBOOK POSTS, NO TWEETS ON TWITTER, NOTHING.

https://www.facebook.com/firedrivecom?fref=ts - over 124 pi$$ed off comments.

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/firedrive.com.html

https://torrentfreak.com/firedrive-mystery-deepens-ios-and-android-apps-disappear-141006/

http://news.techworld.com/security/3575397/firedrive-mystery-deepens--is-this-cloud-storage-site-coming-back/

Firedrive [from the now deleted Wiki page] formerly known as Putlocker, is a Singapore based (with UK presence [merely a fake address in London used by over 600+ companies]) cloud storage site and file hosting service ...

This says it all:

1/ it is based in Singapore and the London address is obviously fake (see below)

2/ the Wiki pages for Putlocker and Firedrive have been deleted - why?

http://tinyurl.com/CachedWikiFiredrive

It has only one company secretary / director in the UK: Mrs. Jelena Ivanova

http://companycheck.co.uk/director/917952070/MRS-JELENA-IVANOVA

Mrs JELENA IVANOVA - Directors no. 917952070
Year of Birth: 1981
Registered Address: Spilves Street 14 - 30, Aizkraukle, Lv-5101, Latvia.

Director Overview

Jelena Ivanova holds 1 appointments at 1 active companies, has resigned from 0 companies and held 0 appointments at 0 dissolved companies. Jelena began their first appointment at the age of 31. Their longest current appointment spans 1 years and 3 months at FIREDRIVE MEDIA LIMITED.

The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Jelena holds a current appointment equals £0, with a combined total current assets value of £0 and total current liabilities of £0. Roles associated with Jelena Ivanova within the recorded businesses include: Director

So is Firedrive safe? You make your mind up.

Firstly - re: those paying for a premium service - Firedrive (the only director: Mrs JELENA IVANOVA in Latvia) will have access users' credit card &/or payment details.

Secondly - he / she / they will have access to users' login passwords - which folks may also use for logging onto other sites. For everyone its time to change passwords NOW!!

But wait a minute the old Wiki entry said that Firedrive is based in Singapore.

Aha - it seems that the London presence is a fake address in London being used by over 600 companies!! 

Firedrive Media Limited, 13 John Prince’s Street - 4th Floor, London W1G 0JR, GBR.
Contact: Michael Brimo
Tel: +1 (438) 998-1627
Email: marketing@firedrive.com

However:
Area code +1 (438) is Montreal, Canada.

And Michael Brimo fails to respond to emails.

This guy one Adam Carman seems to have a connection with Firedrive as was.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8TKhkhaUxdAjBVjJcANmZA/about

He has a film uploaded on how to use Firedrive.

Yet this guy also fails to respond to messages.

So is Firedrive a scam company set up by East Europeans, Singaporeans (Chinese?), and Canadians, and whomsoever to make a fast buck. You choose. Some of their associated web sites are (or were) allowing hundreds (thousands?) of copyrighted films to be freely download or viewed. It is likely that the whole network was shut down due to DCMA / copyright infringement.

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Re: Is Firedrive safe?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2014, 01:02:44 PM »
Several other online publications have copied this report by Techworld:  Firedrive mystery deepens – is this cloud storage site coming back?


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