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« on: October 25, 2008, 09:00:19 PM »
Not a major problem but irritating - since I reinstalled XP Pro I am asked to log in every time I start up.  I am the only user/Administrater - how can I get it to boot up without having to wait?

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Re: Log in
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2008, 09:34:52 PM »
See if this helps:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315231

However, it is not a bad thing from a security standpoint to require a log-in password.
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Re: Log in
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 01:14:52 PM »
OK - tried that.  Start up asked me for Admin password - so did System Restore and I will live with log in.  Thanks anyway.

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Re: Log in
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 05:16:02 AM »
doesn't ms's tweak-ui power toy have a no logon feature?

(but as winchester73 said... not a good idea to not have a login.)

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Re: Log in
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 05:33:14 AM »
I believe that's right.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Look for Tweak UI along the right.  I imagine you'll want the top one, not the Itanium version.

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Re: Log in
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 09:25:11 AM »
OK - installed Tweak.  Went into log on but it doesn't matter which box I check (or both) I still get asked to log in.  What am I doing wrong?  Incidentally, I don't need log on as I am the only user and have nothing confidential in my files.  Thanks for the help so far. 

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Re: Log in
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 09:52:36 AM »
If I'm understanding the question correctly, you want the computer to boot on into the user account without asking for a password.

If that's the case, go to Start>Run, type "control userpasswords2" (without the quotes), click OK.

In the window that opens, uncheck "Users must enter a username and password to use this computer," click OK.

In the window that opens, enter the name of the account you want it to logon automatically.
If there is no password, leave the password field blank.  Click OK.


Reboot and see if that helps..


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Re: Log in
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 10:17:19 AM »
Ok tried that - now it opens under Administrator, which uses another XP Pro program which I can't get rid of and which has no folders on it at all.  Reset it back to my name, which of course requires me to click on OK.  Let's just forget it - life is too complicated for this poor computer lamebrain.  Thanks all for trying.

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Re: Log in
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 01:41:49 PM »
Now in terrible trouble.  Keep starting up in the bad XP program.  When I log off administrator it allows me to delete the word administrator and insert my name (good XP). On OK it then reloads in my name (without me having to restart).  In my name tried to do system restore but none respond, except to tell me that any restore cannot apply to my external HD.  When I accept that and ask it to restore to a given restore date - it says it can't as there have been no changes, despite having installed Tweak and then followed the instruction above on "run".

Can I go into disk clean up then delete all restore points (provided I'm in my name program and not administrator)?  Help :sos:

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Re: Log in
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 04:26:58 PM »
"uses another xp pro program"
- do you mean another instance of windows xp?
- or do you mean some program that starts running once xp has started?

if it's the first, r click my computer, properties, advanced tab, startup and recovery settings button, system startup edit button
copy and paste the line(s) under [operating systems]

otherwise, what program starts up??

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Re: Log in
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 05:59:09 PM »
I mean 2 XP Pro - see copy

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

Obviously I am in good XP at this time - and the settings are zero time for it but 30 secs for the other, so good should always start - but it doesn't. :thud:

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Re: Log in
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2008, 07:54:15 PM »
Ok we misunderstood the question.  This makes it clearer now - it seems that boot.ini needs adjusting.

We need to know which one of these two "installations" is the correct one.  Is Windows on partition 1 or 2?  If you're on partition 1, then the default needs to be adjusted to partition(1) along with removing the line entry for partition 2.  If you're on partition 2, then just remove the partition 1 line.

How I usually change this is by editing boot.ini directly by removing the read-only attribute, editing in notepad, and then reapplying the read-only attribute.  I think msconfig can edit this as well, but I don't have Windows XP readily available to me at the moment so can't check.

In any case, making the wrong change here could result in the inability to boot into Windows.  You should have access to the Recovery Console in case something doesn't go right.

Microsoft Support Knowledge Base Article 314058
Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console for advanced users
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058/

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Re: Log in
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2008, 07:56:04 PM »
From your post over here, this suggests Windows is installed on partition 2.  Your boot.ini file probably needs to look like this:

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[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

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Re: Log in
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2008, 05:41:46 AM »
Thanks for the speedy reply.  Let me say that I am not an advancd user (dimwit is more appropriate when it comes to computers) and really need to be talked throught this.  Fiirstly let me recap - to check we are both on the same page. 

On Start Up - it always goes into bad XP.  When I log off Administrator, then delete Administrator in the Log On screen and replace it with John Henderson it automatically comes up with good XP. Even when in good XP it restarts (or from complete Start Up) in bad XP.

I have tried setting the timer to, zero seconds from bad XP My Computer, zero seconds from My Computer good XP, 30 seconds ditto.

I have to assume that bad XP is on C and good XP on D as D has more used space, but how do I confirm this?  Why it went onto D and did not overwrite on C when I reinstalled, I do not know.

Interesting is that both bad and good XP are showing icons for Avira, but I downloaded it to good XP.  It seems that it is being treated as a shared file? 

The start up screens are totally different - good XP has all my folders on it, bad XP shows no folders.

I have two main concerns:

1.  If I mess up with Recovery Console will it make things worse - it looks very complicated to me and uses terms I don't know.

2.  My external HD presumably has the same problems - I daren't reconnect it until they are sorted out - so I if I screw up the donor and lose my folders, connecting the external HD will only take us back to square one at best, but at worst I could lose the data there too.

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Re: Log in
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2008, 06:28:32 AM »
Sorry Aaron - a couple of things I omitted from the recap - the Start Up in bad XP/Administator only happened after I tried to follow the early suggestions in the Forum re Tweak and "run" - before that it always loaded good XP but I had to OK the start up screen as John Henderson.  Maybe if we could reset to the previous position at least it would solve the problem of bad XP always coming up - how should I do that?

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