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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2020, 10:37:06 AM »
G, you can pause Windows 10 updates but can't stop them.  With Windows 10 Home, under Windows Update > Advanced Options, updates can be paused for up to 35 days.


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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2020, 12:36:57 PM »
IMHO: What you're experiencing is NOT typical.
Once you guys figure out how to stop it, I really doubt that stopping updates is going to make a bit of difference.

Some people delay updates, to let other users test the update for bugs, or to ration metered connections, but in the case of security updates, it could come back to bite them.

Having said that, the anti-telemetry program "O&O ShutUp10" has a "not recommended" option to turn off updates. I've never used that option, so I cannot comment on its effectiveness nor consequences.

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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2020, 01:21:28 PM »
Bold added:
Some people delay updates, to let other users test the update for bugs, or to ration metered connections, but in the case of security updates, it could come back to bite them.
Without a doubt!


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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2020, 01:26:46 PM »
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Having said that, the anti-telemetry program
For the tin-foil hat wearers, 3rd party anti-telemetry programs might have been useful (well, comforting) for them 5 years ago when W10 first came out. But not today. Even though W10 and Microsoft never were the privacy threat many believed (or wanted us to believe) they were, as I noted above, Microsoft heard the message and not only do users have much more control over the information being collected (which is NOT personal or personally identifiable information) but they have provided the "Diagnostic Data Viewer" so we can see what data is being collected.

Again, we have MUCH MORE to worry about with Google, Facebook, our ISPs, and especially our cell phone carriers than we do with Microsoft. Frankly, I am WAY more worried about another Equifax or Yahoo type breach where my true name, Social Security, insurance, credit card, birth date, even passwords are actually being stolen (due to negligence and incompetence >:() than I am worried about Microsoft collecting data on how my Windows and Office programs are running.

I think it is important to note and remember that there are many MANY Microsoft haters, tin-foil hat wearers, naysayers, IT journalists, privacy advocates, security experts and watchdog groups constantly scrutinizing (and reporting - over and over again to a viral extent) everything that Microsoft does. If they really were stealing our sensitive information, it would be reported all over the place ad nauseum. And that is just not happening.
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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2020, 05:17:03 PM »
thank you all for your support and Aaron was right when I got the updates its when the
profiles changed
I really wish I had the control to stop updates...could really care less about with what is going on today!!

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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2020, 05:30:47 PM »
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I really wish I had the control to stop updates...could really care less about with what is going on today!!
People don't care about keeping current backups either - until they wish they did.


100s of millions of users have no problems with updates. Of course it would be nice if no one ever had problems. But with over 900 million W10 systems out there, and virtually every single one a unique computer, with millions of different hardware combinations in millions of different configurations times millions of different software installation times millions of different software configurations, not to mention millions of different user personalizations and network setups, I think it amazing Microsoft has done so well to keep Windows Updates issues at such tiny numbers.
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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2020, 05:43:43 PM »
I will take that...with a large grain of salt...lol

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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2020, 05:56:02 PM »
You don't think most Windows computers are uniquely configured? I assure you, except for corporate computers on some corporate networks, they are.

Two 100% identical Dell computers, for example, that come off the assembly line one after the other, and end up in different homes will become unique within minutes after they are booted up for the very first time. This happens as users configure their network connections and Internet access, set up user profiles, their own security software, installed programs, attached printers and external drives and more. And they become even more unique as time moves on.
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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2020, 06:09:35 PM »
@hay59,

See the attachment. You see something similar when you log in?   

Question from Aaron: Does it say you've been signed in with a temporary profile?

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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2020, 07:44:30 PM »
Dr. exact same thing after an update

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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2020, 08:02:20 PM »
Then the "fix" generally is to roll back the update, but... @Corrine, guidance on how to go about this? Or, maybe identify what updates installed and see if it's a known issue with workaround/fix?

For the fun of mentioning it, when I take feature updates, my user profile corrupts and I have to do some kung fu at the command line and then dive into the registry to fix it. Happens on two systems, one a Surface device. Happened on the last two feature updates - I delay their installation by 6 months, and other updates by 10 days... and yet, still broken. :P

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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2020, 09:01:59 PM »
@Corrine, guidance on how to go about this? Or, maybe identify what updates installed and see if it's a known issue with workaround/fix?

I haven't heard of any issues other than here and didn't find any via searching.  The update could be March 10, 2020—KB4540673 (OS Builds 18362.719 and 18363.719) which applies to both Windows 10 Version 1903 and Version 1909 and included the following listed highlights:

  • Updates to improve security when using Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer.
  • Updates for verifying user names and passwords.


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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2020, 07:32:42 AM »
@hay59

As I said, I had the problem of logging in with a TEMP profile exactly 2 months ago.

What solved my problem, and it wouldn't hurt to try it too:

1. Sign out (see the attachment):
  • Click on the Start button
  • Click on your profile icon/name
  • Click on sign out
  • Restart

2. DISM and SFC and chkdsk

See what Corrine asked you to do here

My opinion: Not a wise thought stopping or uninstalling updates.

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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2020, 12:59:31 PM »
@hay59

As I said, I had the problem of logging in with a TEMP profile exactly 2 months ago.

What solved my problem, and it wouldn't hurt to try it too:

1. Sign out (see the attachment):
  • Click on the Start button
  • Click on your profile icon/name
  • Click on sign out
  • Restart

2. DISM and SFC and chkdsk

See what Corrine asked you to do here

My opinion: Not a wise thought stopping or uninstalling updates.
I agree.
If your screen looks like the picture posted by DR M on 3/19, that's NOT an Edge "takeover". That's a Windows 10 default background, with an icon for the default Windows 10 browser.

IMHO: You're having a login problem, not an Edge problem.

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Re: Microsoft Edge Take over......
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2020, 01:44:18 PM »

IMHO: You're having a login problem, not an Edge problem.

Agreed.

Are there multiple profiles on this computer?

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