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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2014, 09:49:32 PM »
Thank you LilBambi.
On the download youtube thing i use a Terminal command:
1- Go to youtube and search the video you want to download
2- Copy the Video URL from the browser's navigation(address) bar.
3- Open up terminal and type in
youtube-dl {video URL}
Don't forget to replace '{video URL}' with the URL you copied from the browser's navigation(address) bar and an extra "space" between the -dl and the url.
and your video will start downloading.
It is simple and has worked for me many times.
DR M, another thing i like about Linux is i dont need any anti anything and no firewall. there is a basic firewall with most distro's and just 3 or 4 clicks and its set up for good if you feel safer;-)
All software downloaded from the Linux repository is free of any infections of any kind which was a big selling point for me and others.

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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2014, 10:27:18 PM »
Thank you LilBambi.
On the download youtube thing i use a Terminal command:
1- Go to youtube and search the video you want to download
2- Copy the Video URL from the browser's navigation(address) bar.
3- Open up terminal and type in
youtube-dl {video URL}
Don't forget to replace '{video URL}' with the URL you copied from the browser's navigation(address) bar and an extra "space" between the -dl and the url.
and your video will start downloading.
It is simple and has worked for me many times.
DR M, another thing i like about Linux is i dont need any anti anything and no firewall. there is a basic firewall with most distro's and just 3 or 4 clicks and its set up for good if you feel safer;-)
All software downloaded from the Linux repository is free of any infections of any kind which was a big selling point for me and others.

That is awesome, Ghost! I knew about that one, but I haven't used it because I have major bandwidth limitations and don't view many videos and don't download them unfortunately, so I didn't know the syntax. Thanks!

So it is SANS the { } and just use the URL?

Very true Ghost  :mitch:

One can not use an anti- something in Linux and many desktop users do.

But, if one wants to be protected, there are both pay to play ones and free ones. If one doesn't want to use a pay to play always running type of anti something program, could just use on demand programs:  ClamAV to keep Windows friends safe, and/or  Anti-Rootkit program Rootkit Hunter to make sure your system doesn't get hit with known rootkits. To make sure the system doesn't get hit with stuff like the UNIX web servers spewing spam.

Of course, Linux computers aren't very appealing to that malware if they are not running the nginx, Lighttpd, or Apache Web servers. However, there are times when someone is doing some web testing on a local web server, and they might be using such software and want to be sure.

But overall, most folks running linux desktops don't worry about it because generally speaking, they keep their systems updated, and other than browser based hacks that generally will only affect the user account, or if as noted above, one is running a webserver, their systems are safer than the average computers out there.

Also good, like in any OS, to make make sure to run as a normal user, only surf and email as a normal user, and enter root credentials as needed and called for.
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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2014, 11:02:31 PM »
Hi LilBambi,
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That is awesome, Ghost! I knew about that one, but I haven't used it because I have major bandwidth limitations and don't view many videos and don't download them unfortunately, so I didn't know the syntax. Thanks!
Well i must be honest and say that my guru Mitch sent that to me along time ago;-)
To strip music from audio or vise versa i use Avidemux (GTK+).
if i want to change the music format i use Sound Converter or Sound Juicer depending on what format i want (Wav or MP3)

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So it is SANS the { } and just use the URL?
Thats correct;-)

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But, if one wants to be protected, there are both pay to play ones and free ones. If one doesn't want to use a pay to play always running type of anti something program, could just use on demand programs:  ClamAV to keep Windows friends safe, and/or  Anti-Rootkit program Rootkit Hunter to make sure your system doesn't get hit with known rootkits. To make sure the system doesn't get hit with stuff like the UNIX web servers spewing spam.
I havent used any of the above mentioned except ClamAv. Maybe "ignorance is bliss';-D

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But overall, most folks running linux desktops don't worry about it because generally speaking, they keep their systems updated, and other than browser based hacks that generally will only affect the user account, or if as noted above, one is running a webserver, their systems are safer than the average computers out there.
This is true.

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Also good, like in any OS, to make make sure to run as a normal user, only surf and email as a normal user, and enter root credentials as needed and called for.
I couldnt agree more;-)

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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2014, 11:51:06 PM »
Very nice, Ghost!

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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2014, 12:14:54 AM »
Thank you,
If your using an SSD here is another syntax:
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TRIM:

Undelete utilities work because when you delete a file, you're really only removing the filesystem's pointer to that file, leaving the file contents behind on the disk. The filesystem knows about the newly freed space and eventually will reuse it, but the drive doesn't. HDDs can overwrite data just as efficiently as writing to a new sector, so it doesn't really hurt them, but this can slow down SSDs' write operations, because they can't overwrite data efficiently.

An SSD organizes data internally into 4k pages and groups 128 pages into a 512k block. SSDs can write only into empty 4k pages and erase in big 512k block increments. This means that although SSDs can write very quickly, overwriting is a much slower process. The TRIM command keeps your SSD running at top speed by giving the filesystem a way to tell the SSD about deleted pages. This gives the drive a chance to do the slow overwriting procedures in the background, ensuring that you always have a large pool of empty 4k pages at your disposal.
TRIM is installed in U and mint," but not ran".
Here is a command you can run when you have nothing else to do. in the terminal copy and paste this:
sudo fstrim -v /
Takes a bit and if you have system monitor in the taskbar AND have it showing "harddisk". 
After a bit ( say 1 min) you will see write activity showing up ! and that is cleaning up the small files !
WAIT for the terminal to show something like this !!!!!!!....
/: 3875201024 bytes were trimmed.
it is not saying it cleaned , just saying it went examined and fixed this that amount!"
Again, this is from Mitch awhile back;-).
I tried it and it worked great;-))
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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2014, 01:21:01 AM »
This is from also from Mitch, "The Linux Cookie Monster", with permission to post here.  I broke up paragraphs, changed spacing from the email format for the forum.  I don't think I changed the context of anything by doing so.  Luv ya, Mitch!  :mitch:

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ok questions about linux? Go here and look around this forum ( most of the distro's have one) -- http://forums.linuxmint.com/.  Now just look at the first main topic ( newbie questions).  Most people figure out windows or learn how by way of friends ! or you can spend $ and get tech support.

Well you would be surprised how many friends a new person has on linux !  I live in a senior mobile home park , fixed income only ( and one thing I noted real quick, there are a lot more retired ladies than men ;-D )  I do not charge to help out !   ( kinda is against the linux way for me)

Well most have a computer to swap news and pics of the families from far away ! and they get a "donated computer" from a grand kid and it is a old xp system with min memory, celeron and slow and sometimes full of malware ! and they are new to computers and confused and no one to help and show them how to work even g-mail ! So I would try and clean up the systems (usually remove about 200 malware things with Malwarebytes and do a clean and defrag and it would work better but still have troubles with flash/java and popup ads

So I would live cd a linux mint and after a bit they would want me to install it and they would offer to pay me ! ( see above i do not charge) So I reached a compromise with them and they can pay me with cookies ;-DD  Well last summer I had a busy month and picked up 5 pounds !!!!!!!!!

There is all kinds of things like "how do I burn a ISO with windows" and several ways to do it.  Then make a live dvd and try it.  It will give you a chance to see if all works with it ( usually does, except laptops do have some troubles) but you can get online, surf and try programs and such !

Now if you have a desktop... for less than the cost of Windows Office you can buy a new hard drive and just swap out the Microsoft and install Linux from a live cd to the hard drive and really try it out !

Don't know how you are with computer hardware? but made my LAST system ( hey I am a damn old senior ) and for about $400 have a 6 core cpu ( amd) , 8 gig of ddr 3 memory, Nvidia graphics and installed a 128 gig solid state drive and wow does it boot fast !!!  NOTE on my other system I have a 64 gig hard drive ( yes just 64) and 2 years later I still have 45 gig free space on it !

Linux will read and write to a NTFS hard drive ( Windows) and I have a large music collection ( thank you Linux) and just use a usb hard drive I made from spare parts ! and use banshee for the music playback ( available for Windows in beta form free of course)

So you can work Linux fine and if you have a really large data files/music and such, just use another hard drive.  There are lots of way you can get support with Linux!


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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2014, 01:46:00 AM »
So true!!!  :mitch:

Thanks for sharing that posting Corrine!  :wub:
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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2014, 12:01:10 PM »
I have not had the compatibilities issues with LibreOffice as mentioned above (except when the Word doc contained off-the-wall fonts). But above said, "complex docx" files too. The files I used did not contain any tables, for example. My son uses LibreOffice for his school papers and has not complained about compatibility so not sure what to say about that.
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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2014, 02:20:51 PM »
Some additional information from another friend, "the hardcore Nocturnal Slacker Linux dude at Scot's" suggested:

Quote from: V.T. Eric Layton
If you'd like, you can also point your interested members at Landzdown to my GNU/Linux Adventurer's Backpack article, which is also a Win2Lin introductory piece... and 5 Things Every Aspiring Linux User Should Know.

We're here to help should any of your folks decide to take the plunge.


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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2014, 07:25:20 PM »
Awesome that you posted those Corrine!

They are great links from Eric's Linux blog. Since they are such great postings, I asked him if he would consider putting them in a comment on my blog entry too, which he graciously did.

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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2014, 08:57:59 PM »
My experience with Linux is a little more limited to just web development, however, I was impressed with how far these distros and tools have come. When I first "tried" Linux it was Ubuntu back in 2006 (Dapper Drake), I wasn't too impressed but thinking back, it's probably more because of the vast difference in UI between it (at the time) and Windows - I had no idea what to do or how to do anything.

Also, OpenOffice had many compatibilities with Office at the time - haven't used it since so can't comment on it now.

I admit, my Linux time is now at the hands of a Git Bash terminal and I don't dive much into the UI of our development VMs (openSuse). Linux (and many tools like Git) has a very powerful command line system!
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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2015, 12:41:12 PM »
Hello, LzD, from my old XP computer, which is running with Linux Mint, from today !

You see, instead of completely break the new computer, I decided to learn something else on the old one!

I have some (in fact a lot) questions, as I find my self unable to do the most simple things!

1. The Adobe Flash Player is out of date, so it's blocked by Firefox. I downloaded a file, but what's next? How can I install it?

2. I would like a program suitable for cd/dvd burning. What do you suggest? Again, how can I do the installation?

3. What about zip files? Do I need something like 7 zip, or there is not such a thing in Linux?

4. Can I install Pale Moon?

5. What else do you think I should need?

THank you, in advance!
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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2015, 03:41:56 PM »
What version of Linux Mint are you using? ( I don't run Mint so I won't be much help on most issues)

1. You can't. Adobe dropped support for flash in Linux.
Read this article
http://www.howtogeek.com/193876/using-firefox-on-linux-your-flash-player-is-old-and-outdated/?PageSpeed=noscript

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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2015, 03:59:00 PM »
I'll ping Ghost. He is using Linux- 17-Mate but, as plodr asked, will want to know which version of Linux Mint you have.


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Re: Windows Vs Linux
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2015, 04:24:30 PM »
I installed Linux Mint 17.2 (Rafaella), version Cinnamon.

I will wait.

Thanks.

Meanwhile, I noticed that one of the already installed programs (Brasero) is a dvd/cd writer and cd audio creator.
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