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Title: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: Corrine on December 08, 2020, 02:18:07 PM
Adobe released Version 32.0.0.465 of Adobe Flash Player for Windows, macOS, Linux and Chrome OS with assorted bug fixes.

Release date:  December 8, 2020
Vulnerability identifier:  None
Platform:  Windows, Macintosh, Linux and Chrome OS

From the Release Notes (https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/release-note/fp_32_air_32_release_notes.html#fixed_issues):

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"Today marks the final scheduled release of Flash Player for all regions outside of Mainland China.  We want to take a moment to thank all of our customers and developers who have used and created amazing Flash Player content over the last two decades.  We are proud that Flash had a crucial role in evolving web content across animation, interactivity, audio, and video.  We are excited to help lead the next era of digital experiences.

Adobe will no longer support Flash Player after December 31 2020, and Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning January 12 2021; Adobe strongly recommends all users immediately uninstall Flash Player to help protect their systems. 

Some users may continue to see reminders from Adobe to uninstall Flash Player from their system.  Please see our Flash Player EOL General Information page (https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html) for more details and links to instructions for those that would like to uninstall Flash Player manually."

Update:
Release Notes (https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/release-note/fp_32_air_32_release_notes.html#fixed_issues)
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: plodr on December 09, 2020, 12:29:40 PM
If you still have flash installed, now might be a good time to download this and keep it handy
Flash Player Uninstaller:  http://download.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/support/uninstall_flash_player.exe

Flash reaches end of life on December 31,2020.
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Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player after December 31, 2020 and Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning January 12, 2021, Adobe strongly recommends all users immediately uninstall Flash Player to help protect their systems.
Source: https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html 
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: hayc59 on December 10, 2020, 05:07:18 PM
By what I am reading everywhere this is not gonna be good??
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: Corrine on December 10, 2020, 06:47:44 PM
Since the EoL announcement for Flash Player over three years ago, HTML5 has been replacing Flash Player so there shouldn't be any issues.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: hayc59 on December 10, 2020, 08:03:12 PM
HTML5?? is that something to download or comes with palemoon? thanks C
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: winchester73 on December 10, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
HTML5 runs natively in a web browser whereas Flash requires a plug-in.

No, it's not something to download.

What do you mean by "comes with palemoon"?  HTML5 is the latest version of Hypertext Markup Language, the way developers code websites and web pages.  Palemoon is how you view their work.

All of the big name browsers (Internet Explorer, Edge, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera, Mobile Safari, Android's browser, et al) support HTML5.

Steve Jobs refused to allow Flash on iOS devices.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: hayc59 on December 10, 2020, 08:42:17 PM
thank you...so its ok to remove it now(flash)?
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: hayc59 on December 10, 2020, 08:44:04 PM
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Adobe has released on Tuesday the last update ever for its iconic Flash Player app, which the company plans to retire at the end of the year. ... Skipping this last Flash update won't remove this "time bomb," however. Adobe told ZDNet that the killswitch code was added months before in previous releases and that this last Flash update only modifies the language used in the prompt that will ask users to uninstall the app.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/adobe-to-block-flash-content-from-running-on-january-12-2021/
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: winchester73 on December 10, 2020, 09:08:15 PM
thank you...so its ok to remove it now(flash)?

Unless you have a site that still requires Flash to work.  I have a few.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: plodr on December 11, 2020, 11:18:11 AM
Some game sites still use flash. Apparently in 3 years, they haven't done much to re-write games. I'm sure people who use those sites will still be running flash, unpatched, until the sites do something.

I removed flash from our four Windows 7 computers in September 2019. I figured I should start getting used to figuring something else out. I believe Chrome has flashed disabled for a long time now. If you need it, you'd have to enable it for the site. The setting doesn't stick so every time you go to that site, you'd have to again enable it.

Flash has never been a part of android. I don't seem to have a problem streaming things on my android devices.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: hayc59 on December 11, 2020, 04:02:09 PM
OK cool since idont play games on the laptop i can remove it?
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: hayc59 on December 11, 2020, 04:12:45 PM
removed it and its gone in the app section, but is still in programs??
no way of removing it totally ? hank you for the help as always
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: hayc59 on December 11, 2020, 05:16:18 PM
Did a little searching and got it removed completely
using this method.yahoo

How to Remove Adobe Flash from Windows 10 in 5 Minutes
https://lifehacker.com/how-to-remove-adobe-flash-from-windows-10-in-5-minutes-1845509875
http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=4577586
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: pastywhitegurl on December 12, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
On my last  update, I was offered the option to uninstall flash.  I deferred just because it surprised me. I do intend to uninstall it.

When I let the December Windows updates install,  if I accept that prompt and uninstall Flash through that pop up panel, will it be completely uninstalled? Or do I need to download a the specific uninstaller that Corrine has linked in the first post?
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: Paddy on December 13, 2020, 04:52:28 AM
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4577586/update-for-removal-of-adobe-flash-player


Paddy...
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: plodr on December 13, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Paddy's link makes the uninstall as clear as mud. I'm not sure if MS's answer just uninstalls flash from its browsers  or IE and Edge only.

You might want to read this
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to-completely-uninstall-remove-adobe-flash-player-from-windows-10
Showing 3 ways to remove flash:
1. Adobe's tool
2. MS's KB
3. Manually

Method 1 is probably the easiest but don't forget to check each browser. Fire up a browser, head here https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html
and scroll down to step 5.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: pastywhitegurl on December 13, 2020, 06:44:06 PM
I'm glad its not just me. I must have read through that 5 times and still don't get it.    And, it seems to not include Win10 version 2004.

I will probably be coming back to this thread in the near future.

Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: ky331 on February 02, 2021, 12:07:44 PM
I was among those people who found that, even after running the Flash Uninstaller on Win10, I still had files in Windows/System32/Macromed/Flash and Windows/SysWOW64/Macromed/Flash that were protected... I could NOT delete them.   (It would prompt me for permission to proceed, but then couldn't follow-through.)
One of the files in each of those Flash subfolders was FlashUtil_ActiveX.exe ; it's another uninstaller.   By running it, once from each of the Flash folders, it removed some of the files therein... but more importantly, removed protection from what was left over, so I was then able to delete them.   Moreover, the Flash program icon in my Control Panel has also finally disappeared.
(Note:  My EDGE Chromium had already been updated, so as to no longer access Flash.)
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: winchester73 on February 02, 2021, 12:14:41 PM
I don't have that utility in either folder  :(

I hope Microsoft releases something next week with the other updates that will easily remove Flash without any intervention by me  8)
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: ky331 on February 02, 2021, 12:42:53 PM
I just checked, and see that the page
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=4577586
now offers Flash Removal for Win10 20H2 (3 separate versions for x86, x64, ARM64).   
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: winchester73 on February 02, 2021, 06:10:34 PM
That did the trick, thanks!  Folders in both locations totally removed.  Flash removed from Control Panel.  No reboot required (but I'm going to do one anyway).
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: ky331 on February 02, 2021, 06:16:35 PM
Glad to have helped.
Had I seen it before I tried the utility method, I probably would have gone for it as well.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: winchester73 on February 02, 2021, 06:37:50 PM
And, it seems to not include Win10 version 2004.


Look on page 2  :)

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=4577586

There are 3 options for you to pick.  If you don't know which you need, go to your Windows Update/Check for Updates, then View Update History ... you'll find which version of monthly updates Microsoft installs on your computer (x64, x86 or ARM64).
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: plodr on February 03, 2021, 12:41:08 PM
If it works as Windows 7 catalog updates did, when I mistakenly tried to install the wrong update (sometimes forget I'm on  32 bit and try to install 64 bit), I'll get a popup "this update is not applicable for your computer". So you can't install or run the incorrect update.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: DR M on February 04, 2021, 10:19:07 AM
I didn't understand this.

How do we uninstall Flash player?

Using the Uninstaller?
From the Control Panel > Uninstall a program feature?
Using this update to complete the process?

I just uninstalled it from the Control Panel... Then removed the Macromed folder manually. I guess I should use the Uninstaller and then the update?
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: winchester73 on February 04, 2021, 11:53:48 AM
There are several things going on:

Removing Flash from Firefox, Opera, etc, is relatively straightforward, use the Adobe uninstaller and it will take care of the remnants.

Removing from IE and Edge (Windows for that matter) is not as simple, if you try to manually delete the Macromedia System32 and SysWOW files/folders, you'll need permission from TrustedInstaller to make changes, and you won't get it.  Hence the Microsoft uninstaller from the catalog ky331 linked.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: DR M on February 04, 2021, 12:33:41 PM
So the recommendation when helping a user is to use the Uninstaller, right? For IE and Edge in Windows 8.1 and 10, a new update will remove it, normally. For now, we have to disable it as indicated here: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html

Please correct me if I am not right.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: Corrine on February 04, 2021, 01:12:49 PM
The link to https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html is how to install Flash Player.  Since this is for when you are helping someone, I suggest providing the link from the Microsoft Update Catalog (https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/search.aspx?q=4577586) for their OS.
Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: DR M on February 04, 2021, 01:21:10 PM
That link above basically includes info about  Enable/Disable Flash Player in the browsers. Besides there isn't a way to install it anymore.

Question: We expect Microsoft to include Flash uninstaller in an update, right? It's a bit strange to provide a separate update only for that.

Title: Re: Adobe Flash Player Update Released
Post by: Corrine on February 04, 2021, 02:25:34 PM
Why not link directly to the instructions at Uninstall Flash Player for Windows (https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-windows.html)?

As to the Microsoft update, looking at the catalog dates, the most recent was January 22.  I would expect it to be included with the February 9th security updates.