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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2014, 05:24:01 PM »
Slim is out via the builds link.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2014, 12:09:58 AM »

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2014, 01:05:49 AM »
The Slim version is always released aroound 5 days after an update so I think his post is a tad bit preliminary since the update was released today.


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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 02:56:15 AM »
The Slim version is always released aroound 5 days after an update so I think his post is a tad bit preliminary since the update was released today.

Hi Corrine, this thread, as well as the Majorgeeks thread that hayc59 linked to, got me to thinking about "slim" versions (which I never thought about before). How does one know if they are downloading the slim version of various programs, not just CCleaner? And, what is actually "bundled" into the bloated versions? Maybe Chrome? I always use the free versions, and I assumed that there would be a check box to opt out of bundled software. Is something secretly bundled with the free version of CCleaner that gets planted into the registry?
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2014, 12:32:21 PM »
Hi, John.

If there are different versions of a software program available, they will be provided on the download page.  As to the bundling that is referred to, that is adware.  It is unwanted, unneeded extras and includes toolbars and browser hijacks which redirect search results.   There are some software installers that are very tricky -- unless the prechecked options for including those extras are not unchecked in a particular order, the some portion will still be installed.  That is why it is recommended to read each screen when installing a software program and to avoid "download sites" like C|Net and locate the developer's website. 

Although not all inclusive, CoU maintains a couple of helpful lists about programs that includes unwanted extras.  See Installers Hall of Shame (Unwanted add-on) and Products with Ask Toolbar.





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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2014, 01:00:26 PM »
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Is something secretly bundled with the free version of CCleaner that gets planted into the registry?
No! Piriform is not a malicious company that uses secret tricks to foist junk on our systems. But as with ALL software, users need to select the custom install options when installing ANY software to at least have the opportunity to opt-out of extras, or to install in other than the default location.

Clearly, that MG poster is missing something because the slim version is clearly available from the Piriform website. Plus, note the slim version is the latest version too, which was just released yesterday. No 5-day wait necessary (which, frankly, I don't think I have ever seen).

And BTW, while I have nothing against MG, note that download sites often bundle these extras - it is not always the developers. Plus, downloads sites are almost always behind the developer with the latest updates. Maybe by just a day or two, but sometimes much longer. Also, some download sites "brand" the programs with their site's name. :( I say why use a download site when you can get the most current (and unmodified) program right from the developer?


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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2014, 02:09:05 PM »
Hi, Corrine  :rose: & Digerati. Thank you for your prompt replies.

Even though I usually download the free versions of certain software, CCleaner included, I always try to pay strict attention to each screen in order to avoid the bundled (unwanted) software. I'll pay even closer attention from this point forward. It never dawned on me that I needed to "select the custom install options" to make sure that I was downloading the slim versions, and like the average dummy, I usually allow the downloads to install to the default locations. Oh well, live and learn. Thanks again.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2014, 03:26:47 PM »
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It never dawned on me that I needed to "select the custom install options" to make sure that I was downloading the slim versions, and like the average dummy,
No, you select the custom install options because that option takes you to the page where you can opt-out of any extras (and select a different install location - such as on a secondary drive or partition). If you don't select the custom install option, you get the default install, and that will include the extras you may not want without giving you any opt-out options.

So even if installing the Slim version of CCleaner, pick the custom install option. Then you can install it where you want, or just accept the default, and you can install it to just you, or all users too.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2014, 04:34:02 PM »
Perhaps, to refute all this speculation, the SLIM build has been released... sooner than the expected 5-day waiting period.

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2014, 05:15:34 PM »
Excellent point, ky331.


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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2014, 02:32:15 AM »
The folks at Piriform aka CCleaner averted a PR disaster and released slim in lieu of waiving the usual ten day wait period. 
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2014, 01:06:48 PM »
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The folks at Piriform aka CCleaner averted a PR disaster and released slim in lieu of waiving the usual ten day wait period. 
I totally disagree with that.

PR disaster? Not hardly! Most folks never heard of the slim version and  no one really "needs" the slim version so it would be missed by only a few who have been spoiled rotten by this nice option. And I say spoiled because the vast majority of software makers don't provide such an option.

There is no "usual" ten day wait period! And never has and I have been using and recommending (and fighting for) CCleaner long before it officially became "CCleaner". Back when it was almost automatically shunned simply because it contained a Registry cleaning feature. 

In fact, as I noted above in post #20, I don't believe there is even a 5 day wait period as the latest slim version was posted on the same day as the regular versions.  No wait at all!
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2014, 02:04:09 PM »
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The folks at Piriform aka CCleaner averted a PR disaster and released slim in lieu of waiving the usual ten day wait period. 
I totally disagree with that.  PR disaster? Not hardly!
Everyone has an opinion - that doesn't necessarily mean we have to agree. This is the first instance that Piriform have released Slim out-of-the-gate. I'm quite sure it was as a result of the bad PR with Major Greeks. 
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2014, 02:10:21 PM »
I can't recall another instance where I didn't have to wait a few days for the slim build to be released.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2014, 02:41:09 PM »
Even though I usually download the free versions of certain software, CCleaner included, I always try to pay strict attention to each screen in order to avoid the bundled (unwanted) software. I'll pay even closer attention from this point forward.

Although not foolproof, you may be interested in Unchecky


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