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Offline JDBush61

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2014, 05:15:12 AM »
PUA explained as I was unable to fix broken link in my reply:
http://virusradar.com/en/glossary/pua

See also malware | greyware.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware#Grayware

Thanks for the above links, as well as your other response regarding Adobe ARM. I'll give them a read.

I'm certainly no tech wiz, but I would like to be at least "half-way aware" of what should not be disabled on my operating system.
I'm usually very careful when installing programs, and updates. I scan each window carefully to avoid installing unwanted
bundled "stuff"; e.g., Chrome. I become worried only if there is bundled stuff that the install windows don't provide a check box to opt out of.

As I mentioned above, I uninstalled the regular free CCleaner, and installed the slim version. Everything seems to work peachy.
Today, I followed your links to the discussions at MG and Piriform, and it appears that nothing is secretly bundled with the regular free version after all, yet I could still be wrong.

Again, thanks!
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2014, 11:13:40 AM »
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2014, 02:45:18 PM »
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As I mentioned above, I uninstalled the regular free CCleaner, and installed the slim version.
Then you just wasted your time as the CCleaner installed is the exact same, regardless the download option you used.

As seen here, these are not "versions" but "download builds".
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it appears that nothing is secretly bundled with the regular free version after all, yet I could still be wrong.
You are not wrong - at least when it comes to Piriform products.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2014, 03:20:08 PM »
I know I'm not wrong nor am I confused. Some tend to run with it - as it were with software they are passionate about. I would not be one that is a CCleaner _lover_ ; it serves a purpose but doesn't necessarily merit praise.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2014, 03:44:24 PM »
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it serves a purpose but doesn't necessarily merit praise.
I guess that depends on your expectations.

My expectations are that it first and foremost, works. That it is not overly aggressive, or a resource hog. And it is easy to use. CCleaner meets or exceeds all those, and more.

Does that mean everyone should have it? No! Why? Because the "basic" "Disk Cleanup" tool that comes with all versions of Windows is just fine for the vast majority or users. But if a user needs something more than Windows "Disk Cleanup", I recommend CCleaner.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2014, 04:51:04 PM »
Unless something specific to the software is as at issue (or) a problem accessing something somewhere from Piriform - I will be lurking this thread but not posting assuming there's no new updates. 

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2014, 09:15:45 PM »
Then you just wasted your time

I came to that realization prior to your post, but I do appreciate you pointing it out.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2014, 01:07:58 PM »
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I came to that realization prior to your post, but I do appreciate you pointing it out.
Well, the process ensured you had the latest version! A good thing!  :D
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2014, 03:28:40 PM »
Well, the process ensured you had the latest version! A good thing!  :D

Well, seeing that I'm a busy man with limited free time, the amount of effort spent compared with the returns was more than optimal. Dictum sapienti sat est.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2014, 05:26:15 PM »
CCleaner (originally Crap Cleaner) is a great program.

I do not use the registry cleaner except for surgical removals and my clients are to leave things alone and just run CCleaner so they don't muck with the settings. And to make it easier to do it daily after they close the browser, I have them right click on the Recycle Bin and choose Run CCleaner from the dropdown menu.

I have CCleaner set to leave the Logs and Memory Dumps alone and special settings to not mess with their browsers personal settings.

CCleaner is worth it's weight in gold. I just wish Piriform would also allow donations from home users and leave the 'add ons' unchecked.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2014, 06:36:13 PM »
Hmmm, I guess we have different definitions of surgical removal. To me, a surgical removal involves me using Regedit to remove individual entries and Windows Explorer (File Explorer now) to remove individual program files and folders, and start menu/desktop shortcuts.

CCleaner (and Windows Disk Cleanup and other cleaning tools) is pretty much an all inclusive, broad-sweeping tool - though you can use it to remove a specific cookie or Restore Point, which is nice. And you can tag cookies to keep during cleaning for sites you visit often - a feature I really like.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2014, 10:48:15 PM »
CCleaner v4.18.4842 (25 Sep 2014)

- Added Active System Monitoring for Free-version users
 - Improved Firefox Saved Password cleaning.
 - Improved Opera History cleaning.
 - Improved 64-bit build architecture for Window 8 and 8.1.
 - Added Ashampoo Burning Studio 14, XnView and FastStone Capture cleaning.
 - Improved localization support.
 - Minor GUI Improvements.
 - Minor bug fixes.

Emphasis here is that a new Startup item and tray icon are added (as detected by WinPatrol:) 
        CCleaner Monitoring (CCleaner.exe /MONITOR). 
Looking in CCleaner under OPTIONS / Monitoring, the box to Enable System Monitoring is PRE-CHECKED.   It appears this will have CCleaner run continually in the background, to prompt the user to clean his/her system whenever doing so would save more than .5 GB.   [There are other menus/options here, which are restricted to the PRO version.]   Personally, I have to question whether this feature is really worth it, regardless of how little system resources it might use in so doing.   For more information [which was originally written-up as applying to the PRO version], see http://www.piriform.com/docs/ccleaner/ccleaner-settings/changing-monitoring-settings-ccleaner-professional

NOTE:  To remove the Startup entry, and disable the tray icon, there are TWO steps required:

1) First, under Options/Monitoring, UNcheck the box to Enable SYSTEM Monitor.

2) Then, you must go to Options/Advanced, and UNcheck the box to Enable ACTIVE Monitoring.

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2014, 11:22:14 PM »
I've been a long time user, but I'm not a fan of this new "feature". I'm certainly not going to install the update, seems silly to jump disabling hoops for a few minor tweaks. I'm also capable of deciding for myself when my computer needs to be "cleaned".  :blink:

Nobody, repeat nobody, needs a disk cleaner to perform Active System Monitoring ... or another background process that's enabled by default.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2014, 11:47:48 PM »
I use CCleaner quite regularly, and it never has presented any problems. I imagine (blindly) that the folks at Piriform know what they're doing, so like with all software updates, when I see "bug fixes" (even if minor) and "improvements", I usually just cross my fingers and update. However, I'm not a big fan of programs continually running in the background, so it's nice that the active monitoring can be disabled.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2014, 12:13:36 AM »
Just updated to the new version and got an interesting warning pop-up when UNchecking the Active Monitoring.
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