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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #105 on: July 25, 2018, 07:46:36 PM »
Pasty..NO unless you want/need a program phoning home...its just not good!

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #106 on: July 25, 2018, 08:55:16 PM »
I make certain when installing the updated slim version that all options are unchecked.  I don't want CCleaner run automatically.  I run it when I choose to do so. So, no heartbeat because it isn't running.


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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #107 on: July 25, 2018, 10:06:42 PM »
Good to know. I keep mine off until I need it anyway.   I've been waiting for the slim builds as well.

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #108 on: July 26, 2018, 02:06:15 PM »
The Piriform CCleaner forum shows some other interesting 'flaws' are being reported: https://forum.piriform.com/forum/8-ccleaner-bug-reporting/

For example, the program crashes when you run it from right clicking the recycle bin.

Of more interest, and supposedly the moderators have escalated this to the admins ... CCleaner installation ignores your previous settings and re-enables the active monitoring function by default (even if you deactivated it in a previous version).  Unticking the box doesn't work, it keeps running (system tray icon remains active).  If you kill the process it returns on reboot (apparently it is now a startup option in msconfig by default).

I'm sticking with 5.44 for the moment.  Whether this is a bug or done by design, I'm not interested.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #109 on: July 26, 2018, 02:14:25 PM »
Joe53 reported these monitoring problems at DeLL https://www.dell.com/community/Virus-Spyware/Updates-7-24-18-CCleaner/m-p/6117946/highlight/true#M201372
and posted his solution there.

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #110 on: July 26, 2018, 03:49:25 PM »
Winchester, is that true of the slim build as well?  o nvm.... reading the link ky posted addresses that.

I think I will not install the update.

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #111 on: July 26, 2018, 04:17:21 PM »
Yes slim build has the same 'heartbeat' pumping
some good read if you have the time
https://forum.piriform.com/forum/8-ccleaner-bug-reporting/

I blame avast for this and only them

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #112 on: July 27, 2018, 12:44:37 PM »
I have CCleaner blocked from accessing the 'net in my firewall.

My usual method of updating CCleaner, downloading and unzipping the Portable version, copying the 2x CCleaner .exe files to the C:\Program Files\CCleaner folder, resulted in no modifications to my previous settings eg. no re-enabling of Monitoring, but it seemed to add a new Settings entry (or I'd missed it last time) 'Show CCleaner in the Windows notification area', which I've disabled.

CCleanerUpdate.exe is still triggered and running and continues running after exiting the main program, requiring manual closure via TaskMan. I'll checkout the recent links when I get time, had most of the last 7/8 days offline, so I've a lot to catch up on.

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #113 on: July 30, 2018, 04:22:11 PM »
Quite an uproar about the changes made in 5.45.  Piriform's response:

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Here's what we're doing:

    We will separate out Active Monitoring (junk cleaning alerts and browser cleaning alerts) and heartbeat (anonymous usage analytics) features in the UI and we will give you the ability to control these individually. You will have the options of enabling all, some or none of these functions, and this functionality will be uniquely controlled from the UI.
    We will take this opportunity to rename the Advanced Monitoring features in CCleaner to make their functions clearer.
    We will deliver these changes to the software in the coming weeks.

Full notice here: https://forum.piriform.com/topic/52360-changes-in-v545-and-your-feedback/

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #114 on: August 01, 2018, 10:33:00 AM »
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #116 on: August 03, 2018, 11:03:57 PM »
CCleaner version 5.45 has been removed from the download site and and version 5.44 returned for download.  See the announcement on their forums.


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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #117 on: August 11, 2018, 02:07:14 PM »
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More great info on this sell out by CCleaner
Except that is old news and superseded and no longer applies so why is the bashing still going on as if it is currently still an issue? They made a mistake. They owned it. They removed it. And they are working to ensure the next release does not repeat it. What more is wanted from a company run by imperfect humans?

Bash when bashing is due is fine. But so is praise when due too.

It would seem the Piriform side has grappled back some say in the matter. The current status is they removed that offending version back on Aug 3rd and it is just fine to install the latest version available - which is 5.4.4.

I think it is sad folks like Martin Brinkmann who were so quick to jump on the bashing bandwagon has neglected to update his article to show Piriform is doing the right thing and listening to their users. :(

Make no mistake. Because Avast still controls the purse strings, I am not willing to put blind faith in Piriform products. But I am back to a "trust but verify" position and I will continue to install CCleaner on my systems, and will continue to recommend its use.
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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #118 on: August 30, 2018, 04:56:16 PM »
CCleaner 5.46 ships with clearer privacy options---great info!!
https://www.ghacks.net/2018/08/30/ccleaner-5-46-ships-with-clearer-privacy-options/

especially this part!!
According to the data factsheet,no user-specific data is collected. Here is the full list of what is collected:
Installation event, product edition, product version, license status, country, language, and operating system version information

• License Key and type of license.
• Basic interaction data (views, clicks) and performance indicators.
• If Chrome is installed.
• If Antivirus is installed
• Operating system version and language.
• For crashes, apps running at the time of the crash, CCleaner version and build.

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Re: CCleaner build/version discussion
« Reply #119 on: September 17, 2018, 05:48:50 PM »
CCleaner Disregarding Settings and Forcing Update to 5.46

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Reports are coming in that Piriform is forcing CCleaner to update to the latest 5.46 version even when users had configured the program to not perform automatic updates. To make matters worse, once the users were upgraded to the latest version, their privacy settings were reverted to default, which is to allow anonymous usage data to be sent to Avast/Piriform.


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