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Offline Digerati

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Defraggler Discussion
« on: April 19, 2014, 02:17:26 PM »
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FTR, if you have Windows 7 or especially if you have Windows 8, I do NOT recommend the use of Defraggler, or ANY 3rd party defragging tool.

To be sure, as defragging tools go, Defraggler is an excellent tool, if not the best 3rd party defragger. But if system performance is your goal, the use of 3rd party defraggers can actually degrade performance!!!!

Why? Several reasons - but (again, especially with W8) the one BIG reason is over several user "sessions", Windows learns how you, the user, use your computer and with its various "fetch" routines will use and work with "Windows Disk Optimize" (the name for the Windows defragger) to arrange the programs you use most frequently on your hard disks so they load faster. No 3rd party defragger can do that.

Additionally, it is counter-productive to defrag a disk with potentially 1000s of tiny temporary Internet files and cookies on the disk. Therefore, you should purge your system of clutter with Windows Disk Cleanup (or Piriform's CCleaner) before defragging - something real time defraggers cannot do.

Scheduled defragging has the same limitation - unless you purge the system of clutter first, you will have potentially 1000s of tiny files defragged too - a big waste and counterproductive to an efficient defrag.

While Defraggler may provide a more efficient defrag, any advantage in efficiency is very quickly negated almost the second (and I mean that literally) you start using the computer again as temporary files are saved, other files are opened or updated or modified - a common occurrence today with automatic updaters and broadband Internet connections. So in reality, the 3rd party defragger just ends up eating precious disk space - not to mention wasted RAM and CPU resources for the real-time versions.

And contrary to what some "still" believe, it is NOT necessary to jam program files at the beginning of the disk platters. It is only necessary to store the file segments sequentially, not in scattered fragments. This is because today's HUGE, fast, and big-buffered drives very quickly locate the first segment of any file, regardless its location due to extremely fast "seek" times on modern drives.

The fact of the matter is, we only need a "basic" defragger and for that reason alone, the defragger built into Windows is all we need.

And the absolute bottom line here is this: If you need to regularly defrag to optimize available disk space, what you really need is more disk space. So if regular defragging is necessary, you need to uninstall unused programs, archive/move files to a different drive, and/or buy more drive space.

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Re: Defraggler Discussion
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2014, 03:51:03 PM »
Thanks, Bill.  Another case of "forget what you know about Windows XP". 


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Re: Defraggler Discussion
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2014, 04:51:34 PM »
 :goodie: That sure is the truth!
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Re: Defraggler Discussion
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2014, 08:51:04 PM »
Definitely true! Thanks Bill!  :mitch:
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Re: Defraggler Discussion
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2014, 04:22:52 PM »
BTW, I just found the notice that Corrine made this topic a sticky on July 30 - in gmail's spam folder.  :angry:

So for those using gmail, another reminder to check you spam folders for false positives at least every 3 weeks because tagged (falsely or not) spam is purged after 30 days.
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Re: Defraggler Discussion
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2014, 04:27:59 PM »
Actually, I "unstickyed" this and other topics and created an index of "general software" to replace the pinned threads. 

Another Gmail user mentioned the same thing the other day.  Don't know what caused the sudden change unless someone was subscribed to a thread and, instead of unsubscribing, reported it as spam.  I've seen where this has caused problems at other forums.


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Re: Defraggler Discussion
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2014, 05:12:19 PM »
I found 5 replies for here, 2 for Sysnative, and 1 from my bank. :(
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