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Title: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on November 14, 2016, 10:11:57 PM
***REMINDER***

It is not advisable to run beta software on a production computer.  SpyDie defines beta this way: "Beta. Software undergoes beta testing shortly before it's released. Beta is Latin for 'still doesn't work.'"



The formalities over, the public beta has been announced for Malwarebytes version 3.  I've been running the private beta on the latest builds of Windows 10 along side Windows Defender and WinPatrol PLUS.

From Marcin's announcement at Announcing Beta of Malwarebytes 3.0, a Next-Generation Antivirus Replacement (https://forums.malwarebytes.org/topic/190369-announcing-beta-of-malwarebytes-30-a-next-generation-antivirus-replacement/):
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Our engineers have spent the last year building this product from the ground up and have combined our Anti-Malware, Anti-Exploit, Anti-Ransomware, Website Protection, and Remediation technologies all into a single product which we simply call “Malwarebytes.” And it scans your computer 3-4 times faster!

When we launch Malwarebytes 3.0, we are confident that you can finally replace your traditional antivirus, thanks to our innovative and layered approach to preventing malware infections using a healthy combination of proactive and signature-less technologies. While signatures are still effective against threats like potentially unwanted programs, the majority of our malware detection events already come from our signature-less technologies like our Anti-Exploit and Anti-Ransomware; that trend will only continue to grow. For many of you, this is something you already know, since over 50% of our customers already run Malwarebytes as their sole security software, without any third-party antivirus. But rest assured, we will continue to support compatibility if you choose to use a third-party antivirus or other security software alongside Malwarebytes 3.0.

With the combination of our Anti-Malware ($24.95), Anti-Exploit ($24.95) and Anti-Ransomware (free, beta) technologies, we will be selling Malwarebytes 3.0 at $39.99 per computer per year, 20% less than our previous products combined and 33% less than an average traditional antivirus. As we did with our change from perpetual to subscription, we will grandfather in existing customers at their current price. We are still working out the details, but I assure you we will take care of all existing customers. As always, we will be keeping malware remediation absolutely free.


If you have a good backup and wish to test the beta, please read the complete post and the FAQ in the above link.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: hayc59 on November 14, 2016, 10:53:45 PM
Thanks Corrine and this will be real sweet when done :)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on November 19, 2016, 02:16:03 PM
My trial with the private beta was trouble free. But the public beta caused several problems, the constant one was not being able to shut the computer down. Had to do a power off each night. Reverted to version 2 until they get rid of the bugs.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on November 23, 2016, 11:03:39 AM
A long change log in the announcement for Malwarebytes 3.0 Public Beta Number 2 (https://forums.malwarebytes.org/topic/190970-malwarebytes-30-public-beta-number-2/).  Also note:

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1. It is a requirement that you must uninstall the first beta and reboot before installing public beta 2.

2. Due to a bug in the first beta's uninstaller, Windows Defender may turn off. It is imperative that you check the status of Windows Defender after uninstalling the first beta and make sure it's where you want it to be.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on November 23, 2016, 11:15:21 AM
Sadly, no improvement in beta 2 for me on win 7.
Had to remove it again.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on November 29, 2016, 09:21:17 PM
Malwarebytes 3.0 Public Beta Number 3 (https://forums.malwarebytes.org/topic/191281-malwarebytes-30-public-beta-number-3/) released (and MikeW still experiencing very slow shutdown times & high CPU usage ;) ).

Info from the install notes:

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Malwarebytes 3.0.4.1269

Performance / Protective Capability:
•   Added signature-less anti-exploit and anti-ransomware protection (Premium only)
•   Up to 4x faster scan speeds, including even quicker Hyper Scans
•   Removed non-essential reboots after certain malware removal events
•   Advanced Heuristic Engine (Shuriken) now enabled by default
•   Self-Protection now enabled by default (Premium only)

Usability:
•   Redesigned user interface for improved usability
•   Now configurable to integrate with Windows Action Center / Windows Security Center (Premium only)
•   Update checks are done automatically so they do not need to be scheduled
•   Improved support for keyboard navigation and screen readers

Stability / Issues Fixed:
•   Added ability to lock down My Account screen via User Access Policy
•   Added ability to collect enhanced logs when directed to do so by Support
•   Fixed issue where Scheduler did not adjust for Daylight Saving Time changes
•   Fixed issue where Scheduler defaulted to hourly Threat Scan instead of Daily
•   Fixed issue where Chameleon reported error messages numerous times to Windows Event Viewer
•   Changed 'Recover if missed by' setting in Scheduler to Off by default
•   Prevented rootkit scanning in Custom Scans if full system drive is not selected
•   Updated to latest version of 7-Zip DLL
•   Addressed many other miscellaneous defects
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: JDBush61 on November 29, 2016, 09:45:32 PM
***REMINDER***

It is not advisable to run beta software on a production computer.  SpyDie defines beta this way: "Beta. Software undergoes beta testing shortly before it's released. Beta is Latin for 'still doesn't work.'"

Just out of interest, what's a "non" production computer?
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on November 29, 2016, 10:11:42 PM
Since beta software could cause issues, it isn't advisable for someone not accustomed to testing software to install beta programs.  After all, if it breaks a person's only computer and they don't know how to fix it, they're stuck.  Even with non-beta programs, I recommend creating a restore point before updating/installing.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: JDBush61 on November 30, 2016, 12:36:53 AM
Since beta software could cause issues, it isn't advisable for someone not accustomed to testing software to install beta programs.  After all, if it breaks a person's only computer and they don't know how to fix it, they're stuck.  Even with non-beta programs, I recommend creating a restore point before updating/installing.

Got chya. Thanks. So, by "production computer" you meant "primary / sole computer"?
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on November 30, 2016, 07:41:06 AM
Third beta still causing numerous problems on my win 7 machine
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on November 30, 2016, 12:01:09 PM
Got chya. Thanks. So, by "production computer" you meant "primary / sole computer"?

Yes, particularly if not knowledgeable about recovery or how to work around issues when testing. 
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on November 30, 2016, 01:13:40 PM
This is the worst beta for Mbam so far. Seems to be a lack of coordination of the information being posted and some very poor responses. So far at least 3 moderators have got involved with my posts and none have come back with any answers.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: JDBush61 on November 30, 2016, 10:05:55 PM
Got chya. Thanks. So, by "production computer" you meant "primary / sole computer"?

Yes, particularly if not knowledgeable about recovery or how to work around issues when testing.

I fall into that camp. :)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Pierre75 on November 30, 2016, 10:40:28 PM
Got chya. Thanks. So, by "production computer" you meant "primary / sole computer"?

Yes, particularly if not knowledgeable about recovery or how to work around issues when testing.

I fall into that camp. :)

So do I even though I have version 2.2.1.1403 Premium installed running without problems. I have been following their forum and feel they are trying to push final version out ASAP as Lavasoft are beta testing Version 12. Getting too old to beta test any longer.  ;D
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: plodr on December 01, 2016, 01:33:54 PM
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Getting too old to beta test any longer.
I feel the same way. I beta tested VIPRE years ago. Now I just want to turn on a computer and have everything work. Keeping it secure with just the normal updates is almost a full time job.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Pierre75 on December 19, 2016, 05:28:38 AM
I tried yesterday to install on my Laptop. It seemed to work but hung on 'Heuristics Scanning'. I am now back at 2.2.1.1403 Premium and MBAE 1.09.1.1291 Free. Took me near on a day to recover as it killed MSE and PSI.  Restore points should not be used and ensure to remove registration details before uninstalling. Now waiting till they release a newer version - just monitoring the forum every day. Running Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64.  :'(
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on December 19, 2016, 11:29:13 AM
I hope you considered posting about the issues you had in the forum so they can be addressed.  There is a log they can request that may show the source of the conflict(s).
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on December 19, 2016, 12:26:12 PM
I am being told that its a conflict with MSE that is causing the problem, but fear there are many more bugs as yet to be cured
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on December 19, 2016, 12:57:43 PM
I haven't checked your thread in a while Mike but wonder if it was suggested that you change the Malwarebytes Action setting.  I had to make that change on the first beta on the Windows 10 Insider Build.

Go to Settings, Application tab.  Scroll down to "Windows Action Center" and change the default setting to "Never register Malwarebytes in the Windows Action Center".
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on December 19, 2016, 02:08:10 PM
Made no difference Corrine. What I have found specially frustrating is that none of their development team ever completed the fault finding with me. Plus look on the forum and you will see pages of unanswered problems from unhappy users.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on December 19, 2016, 04:21:01 PM
:(
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: siljaline on December 19, 2016, 05:18:39 PM
For those limping along on the 3x BETA - you could *probably* blast it out as was done with the 2x version.

Proceed at your own caution and peril - set a Restore Point first + a working image of your main drive or drives.

https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/146017-mbam-clean-removal-process-2x/
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Pierre75 on December 20, 2016, 01:25:26 AM
Thanks for the tips. I am going to stay with what I have till such time that more bugs have been fixed. Noticed this morning there is another update out but still problems. They are even redirecting users to other sites to enable them to grab the old MBAM 2.2.1.1043 version and MBAE 1.09.1.1291 (Don't know why they removed them  :-\ ). That is the level I reinstalled. I have most of the MBAM and MBAE exe files backed up on my PC. If anyone needs a file I can supply using zip.
I will now see what happens after Christmas and New Year.  ::)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on December 20, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
Consumer release 3.05 issued.
Offered no improvement for me had to revert back to version 2 again.

This is not going to help Mbams reputation.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on December 20, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
Sadly, you're right, Mike. 

Strangely, when I saw in a post in the forum about Microsoft Edge yesterday that 3.0.5 was released, I checked for updates -- nothing.  I checked again today and nothing.  Clicking Settings > Application > Install Application Updates did a quick check and showed "Progress: No updates are available".

Edit Note:  Now I see why 3.0.5 didn't install or show as available.  From Malwarebytes 3.0.5 Patch Release - now available (https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/192529-malwarebytes-305-patch-release-now-available/):
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If you’re running any earlier 3.0 version you will be prompted to upgrade at some point over the next week or so. 
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Pierre75 on December 20, 2016, 10:41:38 PM
In the forum this morning 'Version 2 will be supported till June 2017'. What a mess they made of this.  >:(
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: plodr on December 21, 2016, 02:10:53 PM
Thanks Pierre75. That takes the pressure off to get v 3 installed for 5 more months.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: LindaEllis on December 24, 2016, 02:59:07 PM
I think I'll keep waiting for Malwarebytes to pop up when I check for updates and tell me that they have their 3.0 ready for me to install.  I have a Windows 7 refurbished desk top, and yes for me, it is my only computer. 
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: hayc59 on December 24, 2016, 08:49:07 PM
I have since removed 3.0..will wait until they get their act together!!
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Zootopia3000 on December 28, 2016, 09:16:13 AM
I'm holding off updating to v3 on the main Windows 7 PC with lifetime Malwarebyte's license to run realtime. Feel a couple more v3 updates oughta get the major bugs out. I am however looking forward to having it so I can be rid of an Anti-virus backup for good, currently use Clamwin passive for right-click scanning and Trendmicro Housecall for periodic full scans(that take FOREVER). Malwarebytes v3 free version installed on the Windows 10 PC scanned just fine, no problems. I'm just hoping the new version isn't a major pig on the system in realtime mode. AV software IMO tends to be a virus in and of itself given the drag on systems, some being worse than others.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on December 28, 2016, 11:06:24 AM
I'm holding off updating to v3 on the main Windows 7 PC with lifetime Malwarebyte's license to run realtime. Feel a couple more v3 updates oughta get the major bugs out. I am however looking forward to having it so I can be rid of an Anti-virus backup for good, currently use Clamwin passive for right-click scanning and Trendmicro Housecall for periodic full scans(that take FOREVER). Malwarebytes v3 free version installed on the Windows 10 PC scanned just fine, no problems. I'm just hoping the new version isn't a major pig on the system in realtime mode. AV software IMO tends to be a virus in and of itself given the drag on systems, some being worse than others.

Mbam 3 Is not an anti virus product and works from a completely different stand point. I would always maintain a full anti-virus program alongside Mbam as and when they get it to work properly.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: plodr on December 28, 2016, 01:50:00 PM
MikeW, read the description from the developer, Marcin Kleczynski.
https://blog.malwarebytes.com/malwarebytes-news/2016/12/announcing-malwarebytes-3-0-a-next-generation-antivirus-replacement/
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you can finally replace your traditional antivirus



Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on December 28, 2016, 02:01:01 PM
You can but, as much as I like MBAM and have know (virtually) many of the people involved with the program for many years, I won't.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on December 28, 2016, 02:59:23 PM
MikeW, read the description from the developer, Marcin Kleczynski.
https://blog.malwarebytes.com/malwarebytes-news/2016/12/announcing-malwarebytes-3-0-a-next-generation-antivirus-replacement/
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you can finally replace your traditional antivirus





I have read it. In my opinion it is a misrepresentation of what most accept as an Anti-virus, in other words it works in a different way. It does offer a layered protection. However, it does not have a virus database it relies on exploit recognition.
I would not be happy with this, and as Pbust  their VP of Products pointed out they have tried to design it to work alongside all AV programs. Sadly as many are finding out they have not made a very good job of it.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: hayc59 on December 30, 2016, 08:43:27 PM
@ Mike..when I had or when I install it after they fix most if not all BETA/RC issues
I run avast free along side everything...works real well.

I posted in the 'honorary member' section a question about MBAM and av(avast) needing to rid myself of an av program
now that I have 3.0 installed, half asy yes keep it..others say I dont need it
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on December 30, 2016, 09:00:27 PM
Most of the problems I had with it was because mbam 3 does not play nice with MSE.  I am still on version 2 but have now ditched MSE and gone over to a pais version of Eset Nod32 anti virus. I will try Mbam 3 when they release the next update.  I would not work without a proper anti virus.  Also note they are relying on the anti-exploit to cover virus protection, which they have stated will remain in permanent Beta. So even they don't think its a finished work.

Keep your anti virus !!
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Zootopia3000 on January 11, 2017, 03:46:27 AM
I dumped Clamwin and Housecall in place of Malwarebytes v3. In the last 17 years i've only had one virus, and it was minor, not even worth a mention. It also helps if you're internet savvy, and both my wife and I are, so will just stick with Malwarebytes. Viruses are so passe these days.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 03, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
 :( Wow. It seems the folks at Malwarebytes just cannot get themselves out of this hole. Now the 3.0.6 update that was to fix the fiasco with 3.0x to 3.0.5 is causing problems for others. I am now seeing reports from reliable sources where Ransomware protection suddenly gets turned off.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 03, 2017, 02:38:33 PM
Strange isn't it 3.06 works fine for me without any problems on Win7.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on February 03, 2017, 02:43:45 PM
No issues here on the latest Windows 10 Insider Build 15025.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 03, 2017, 02:55:13 PM
No doubt if it affected everyone, it would have been pulled, or never released.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Pierre75 on February 03, 2017, 10:16:38 PM
I read the forum daily and will wait as long as possible to upgrade. 8 June 2017 is the date that Version 2 will no longer be supported. I am worried that I do not have enough RAM ( 4GB ) and I run MSE as antivirus. Money does not grow on trees these days for retirees. BTW One poster was told to hang off upgrading for 3 months.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on February 03, 2017, 11:32:25 PM
I'm using Windows Defender and Malwarebytes Pro and my PC has 4GB RAM.  (I had to change the default setting in MBAM for the Windows Action center -- go to Settings and scroll down to Windows Action Center.  Change the setting to "Never register Malwarebytes in the Windows Action Center".  Restart.)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 04, 2017, 09:33:42 AM
In case it helps

Malwarebytes 3.0.6 Known Issues

As of  February 3, 2017
• If you are running an earlier Alpha or Beta, and your upgrade to Malwarebytes 3.0.6 fails for any reason, simply uninstall the earlier version and then reinstall new version. â—¦ If mbae64.sys errors during installation, and sometimes, even a clean install won't remove it, you have in such case to use a FRST script to remove the Self-protection service and driver. Or they can be deleted both in Safe Mode. 

• Under certain circumstances Web or Exploit protection will not start  for some systems. â—¦ Please try this workaround. 

• There is a compatibility issue with Malwarebytes 3.0.6 and F-Secure Deepfreeze (either enable compatibility mode, or add Malwarebytes folders to F-Secure exclusion list) ◦ Read this KB Article for more details.

• There is an issue with imaging programs (such as Macrium Reflect) where large artifact files are left System Volume Information file if a backup is created with anti-ransomware protection enabled.
• There is a conflict with BitDefender 2017 safe pay plugin.
• Enhancements continue to be made to overall Memory and CPU usage and will be released subsequently.
• For computers left idle in certain circumstances, scans can appear to be stuck on Heuristics Analysis when it has actually finished (Open and close the GUI for workaround).
• In XP/Vista Malwarebytes 3.0 does not support Ransomware Protection.
• If WMI services are off or disabled, the user will see a “failure to connect to service” error after installing.
• In Spanish and some other few languages the user will not be able to edit or add a scheduled scan.
• New scans don't reset "Threats Quarantined" counter on Scan Summary page.
• When upgrading from 2.2.1 Managed Applications (Anti-Exploit) settings are not carried over but instead all Advanced Settings will be reset to the current defaults.
• Any User Access Policy created in MBAM 2.x is not migrated when upgrading from MBAM 2.x to Malwarebytes 3.0; a new policy will have to be created.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 04, 2017, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: Pierre75
I am worried that I do not have enough RAM ( 4GB ) and I run MSE as antivirus.
If that is what is holding you back, not sure I would let that bother you. While security programs, in general, tend to be resource hogs, and while the new MB3.x has several more modules providing several more levels of protections, and while there's still some more fine tuning to do, MB3.x is still pretty thrifty comparatively. That said, Windows loves RAM so everything about your computer will enjoy a boost in performance if you could add some more - assuming 64-bit Windows. If running 32-bit Windows, a separate graphics card, even a budget one, will help noticeably if currently using integrated graphics.

@Mike - for what version/build is that for and where did you find that list?

I note two days ago, one of the admins posted some workarounds: Real-time protection layer turning off? (https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/195576-real-time-protection-layer-turning-off-try-this/)

Sadly, it does not address the Ransomware protection turning off issues. :(

Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 04, 2017, 02:22:37 PM
The link was posted on their private forum

https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/191805-malwarebytes-30-known-issues/#comment-1098825
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 04, 2017, 02:24:54 PM
Ah, okay. Thanks. And for what build was it for?
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 04, 2017, 03:41:49 PM
As per the title 3.06
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 04, 2017, 05:32:19 PM
3.0.6 is the basic version. I asked for the build. The latest public release, that I know of, is 3.0.6.1469.

Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 04, 2017, 05:38:03 PM
That's the only one that's been released
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 04, 2017, 06:17:41 PM
No, there's been others (3.0.6.1458, for example). But as I noted, 1469  is the last to the public (that I am  aware of). Since you said got that list from a private forum, I thought there might have been a newer build yet.

I found the latest copy of the known issues in the public forums here (https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/191805-malwarebytes-30-known-issues/). Sadly, it does not state the applicable build number either. 
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 04, 2017, 07:10:18 PM
No that was the preview (1458) The public release was 1469 The Known faults are for the public release 1469
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 04, 2017, 07:22:06 PM
It does not matter if called a preview, public release, or whatever. It was still a "build" that was supposed to fix the problems in 3.0.4 that 3.0.5 didn't fix - and which still have not been fixed.

I really don't care what they call it, or how they number it. A simple timestamp would work for me so I know that I really have the latest.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on February 04, 2017, 09:48:33 PM
It does not matter if called a preview, public release, or whatever. It was still a "build" that was supposed to fix the problems in 3.0.4 that 3.0.5 didn't fix - and which still have not been fixed.

I really don't care what they call it, or how they number it. A simple timestamp would work for me so I know that I really have the latest.

Actually, it does matter since a "release preview" is not sent out as a public release to the update channel.  It is essentially a beta that has been tested internally and is available to determine if the previous issues have been fixed.  It is only available by going to the forum and intentionally following the link to download it.  As the the version, you can get version information on the About tab.

It isn't all that different from Windows 10.  I have Version 1607 (compare to 3.0.6) installed on both my laptop and desktop.  However, one has Build 14393.697 and the other has Build 15025.1000 (compare to 1458 and 1469).
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 05, 2017, 03:22:00 PM
My point is, it does not matter what they call the release when it comes to listing known issues with that specific release.

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It is only available by going to the forum and intentionally following the link to download it.
That does not matter either in "this" scenario because those download links in the forums were posted in the public forum, not a private forum. They were available to all, not just those who signed up for Beta testing, or whatever.

For example, as for Windows 10, we know there have been issues with the Windows Insider Preview builds that were not in the public builds. In that case, you are right, it is similar to W10. But in this Malwarebytes issue, it is not the same because the release preview was available to everyone - in fact, forum staff was even recommending it.

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It isn't all that different from Windows 10.  I have Version 1607 (compare to 3.0.6) installed on both my laptop and desktop.  However, one has Build 14393.697 and the other has Build 15025.1000 (compare to 1458 and 1469).
The difference is, you know the build versions. In that list of known issues, it does not specify the build. It only says 3.0.6. That would be the same as your laptop and desktop saying only Windows 10.

If the developer is providing a list of known issues for the latest publicly available release, the developer should specify which build it applies to. That's all I am saying.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 17, 2017, 04:23:03 PM
Another preview version is available for those interested

 Malwarebytes version: 3.0.6.1469
• Component package version: 1.0.69

The fixes included are:
• Fixed issue with imaging programs (such as Macrium Reflect) where large artifact files were left in the System Volume Information folder if a backup is created with anti-ransomware protection enabled
• Fixed problem where Web Protection fails to start properly
• Fixed problem where Web Protection detections were failing on Windows 10
• Fixed problem where Web Protection did not show the proper block page when Bitdefender 2017 was also installed
• Fixed an issue where certain drivers were not stopped and unloaded in Free mode
• Fixed memory leak
• Improved overall malware detection and remediation
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: hayc59 on February 18, 2017, 05:29:57 PM
As we’ve posted about recently we have an update coming out soon that should addresses a number of issues reported here.
We typically don’t have a way for folks to test these silent program updates, but we’ve created a special “BETA” build that allows us to do so this time around.
Basically this is an updated 3.0.6 installer that is already "pre-updated" with the upcoming component package update.

When you install you will see the following under Version Information on the About screen:
• Malwarebytes version: 3.0.6.1469
• Component package version: 1.0.69

More Info:
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/196391-beta-preview-of-next-306-update/
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 25, 2017, 07:45:46 AM
Second beta/preview offered

Feb. 24 Update -- new version:

You may download this installer from this link (https://malwarebytes.box.com/s/d15nhbepqn0kdzc0iacrzypyic1gbkam).

When you install you will see the following under Version Information on the About screen:
• Malwarebytes version: 3.0.6.1469
• Component package version: 1.0.69 1.0.75

The fixes included are:
• Fixed issue with imaging programs (such as Macrium Reflect) where large artifact files were left in the System Volume Information folder if a backup is created with anti-ransomware protection enabled
• Fixed problem where Web Protection and Anti-Ransomware may fail to start properly
• Fixed problem where Web Protection detections were failing on Windows 10
• Fixed problem where DNS was not resolving properly with Web Protection enabled
• Fixed problem where Web Protection did not show the proper block page when Bitdefender 2017 was also installed
• Fixed an issue where certain drivers were not stopped and unloaded in Free mode
• Fixed memory leaks
• Improved overall malware detection and remediation
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: hayc59 on February 25, 2017, 04:48:31 PM
thank you Mike...what a trip this has been...should have never been released to the public!
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 25, 2017, 05:08:51 PM
thank you Mike...what a trip this has been...should have never been released to the public!
I agree - at least not until V3.0.6.1469 and Component package 1.0.50. That version appears finished (the original 3.x clearly was not). I have not had any problems with it in terms of protection being turned off. I am sticking with it until the next public release.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: plodr on February 26, 2017, 06:20:30 PM
I'm still on v2. I wonder if eventually v 3 will be offered as an upgrade? If so, that's when I might try it on one of the computers.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 26, 2017, 11:18:00 PM
Quote
I wonder if eventually v 3 will be offered as an upgrade?
It puzzles me it has not by now. I can only conclude the folks there know MB3 is still not ready.


I note just today I fired up a notebook running 3.0.5. It reported Malware Protection was disabled. :( It also said MB3 was outdated. But when checking for updates, it said no updates were available.  ??? :( Yet when you go out to Malwarebytes (https://www.malwarebytes.com/) and downloaded the program, you get V3.0.6. That makes no sense.


I really fear they have lost all direction there and running around like chickens with their heads chopped off. Here it is over 2 months after the release of 3.x and they still have not instilled any confidence in me.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 27, 2017, 09:57:21 AM
The latest Beta/preview, still does not work correctly for many users. So I do not anticipate a general release yet.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: plodr on February 27, 2017, 02:42:24 PM
Thanks Digerati and MikeW for reporting the state of v3. I do appreciate knowing what is going on from actual users that have it installed.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: plodr on February 28, 2017, 01:58:25 PM
How long does a threat scan take in version 3?
I have a guy at MajorGeeks who reports that his threat scans take under a minute. I called him on it because threat scans, in v 2, take me about 13 minutes.

I don't see how a scan can go through the number of items in a computer in under a minute.
But I don't have v 3 installed so perhaps it is light years ahead of v 2 on scanning.

He assumed I was using the "free" version. I said, no I have 5 lifetime licenses and I'm currently using all of them. I timed the items and scan times on two computers and it was way over 1 minute.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 28, 2017, 02:07:41 PM
Here is a recent scan report

Malwarebytes
www.malwarebytes.com

-Log Details-
Scan Date: 2/25/17
Scan Time: 9:25 AM
Logfile:
Administrator: Yes

-Software Information-
Version: 3.0.6.1469
Components Version: 1.0.75
Update Package Version: 1.0.1352
License: Premium

-System Information-
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
CPU: x64
File System: NTFS
User: User-PC\User

-Scan Summary-
Scan Type: Threat Scan
Result: Completed
Objects Scanned: 385315
Time Elapsed: 4 min, 35 sec

-Scan Options-
Memory: Enabled
Startup: Enabled
Filesystem: Enabled
Archives: Enabled
Rootkits: Enabled
Heuristics: Enabled
PUP: Disabled
PUM: Disabled

-Scan Details-
Process: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Module: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Key: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Value: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Data: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Data Stream: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Folder: 0
(No malicious items detected)

File: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Physical Sector: 0
(No malicious items detected)


(end)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 28, 2017, 02:17:33 PM
Scan without rootkit  and archive scanning =
Malwarebytes
www.malwarebytes.com

-Log Details-
Scan Date: 2/28/17
Scan Time: 4:14 PM
Logfile:
Administrator: Yes

-Software Information-
Version: 3.0.6.1469
Components Version: 1.0.75
Update Package Version: 1.0.1382
License: Premium

-System Information-
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
CPU: x64
File System: NTFS
User: User-PC\User

-Scan Summary-
Scan Type: Threat Scan
Result: Completed
Objects Scanned: 386042
Time Elapsed: 1 min, 19 sec

-Scan Options-
Memory: Enabled
Startup: Enabled
Filesystem: Enabled
Archives: Disabled
Rootkits: Disabled
Heuristics: Enabled
PUP: Disabled
PUM: Disabled

-Scan Details-
Process: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Module: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Key: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Value: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Data: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Data Stream: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Folder: 0
(No malicious items detected)

File: 0
(No malicious items detected)

Physical Sector: 0
(No malicious items detected)


(end)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 28, 2017, 02:24:17 PM
Quote
How long does a threat scan take in version 3[/size]?
You cannot really make such a comparison. How big is/are the drive(s) being scanned? Are they SSDs or hard drives. How many files? What size files? Are zipped files being scanned? How many? How big?


How much free disk space on the drive(s)?



How much RAM is installed in that computer? How fast is the CPU? How many cores does the CPU have? What other programs are running at the same time?


What type of scan is being performed? What scan options are set?


Only if every single one of those questions have the exact same answer can you really compare.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 28, 2017, 04:24:12 PM
Quote
How long does a threat scan take in version 3[/size]?
You cannot really make such a comparison. How big is/are the drive(s) being scanned? Are they SSDs or hard drives. How many files? What size files? Are zipped files being scanned? How many? How big?


How much free disk space on the drive(s)?



How much RAM is installed in that computer? How fast is the CPU? How many cores does the CPU have? What other programs are running at the same time?


What type of scan is being performed? What scan options are set?


Only if every single one of those questions have the exact same answer can you really compare.

Well done for stating the obvious. and where did you see in any of my posts that I was comparing. I posted two scan options of my PC. NOTHING more
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 28, 2017, 05:26:38 PM
Quote
Well done for stating the obvious. and where did you see in any of my posts that I was comparing. I posted two scan options of my PC. NOTHING more
Gee whiz, Mike. I don't know what your problem is but taking what I said as some sort of a personal affront was unnecessary, and inappropriate. As was the tone of your reply. :(

I will give you the benefit of the doubt, however, because of the way this site deals with some text when I use Chrome during edits, and how it sometimes interjects changes to the text font size as it did in my post which you quoted. If you had taken just a few seconds to see what I had quoted, you would have seen this:

Quote
How long does a threat scan take in version 3?

And then you would have seen it was plodr who I was quoting and responding to, not you!
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: winchester73 on February 28, 2017, 05:49:28 PM
Deconstructing Digerati's post:

Quote
How long does a threat scan take in version 3[/size]?

(quote)(font=Verdana)(size=2px)How long does a threat scan take in version 3(/size)(/font)(font=Verdana)(/size)(size=2px)?(/size)(/font)(/quote)

Removing size tags

Quote
How long does a threat scan take in version 3
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on February 28, 2017, 06:00:15 PM
Thanks Winchester. I wish I had caught that after I posted. I always preview but it does not always change until I actually submit the post.  ???
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on February 28, 2017, 08:37:17 PM
Quote
Well done for stating the obvious. and where did you see in any of my posts that I was comparing. I posted two scan options of my PC. NOTHING more
Gee whiz, Mike. I don't know what your problem is but taking what I said as some sort of a personal affront was unnecessary, and inappropriate. As was the tone of your reply. :(

I will give you the benefit of the doubt, however, because of the way this site deals with some text when I use Chrome during edits, and how it sometimes interjects changes to the text font size as it did in my post which you quoted. If you had taken just a few seconds to see what I had quoted, you would have seen this:

Quote
How long does a threat scan take in version 3?

And then you would have seen it was plodr who I was quoting and responding to, not you!

I don't have a problem. As Plodr and I have been involved with computers for more years than I care to remember, I felt your post unnecessary as we are both fully aware that you cant compare apples with oranges. Thats all
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Metallica on March 01, 2017, 07:33:08 AM
How long does a threat scan take in version 3?
I have a guy at MajorGeeks who reports that his threat scans take under a minute. I called him on it because threat scans, in v 2, take me about 13 minutes.

Version 3 is quicker:


But less than a minute is extreme. It doesn't even accomplish that on my test machine that has hardly anything installed and has a SSD.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: plodr on March 01, 2017, 01:39:39 PM
Thanks Mike_W. I simply wanted to know if it seemed reasonable for a threat scan be finished in under a minute in v 3. Mike_W show me amount of files and time.

When I posted for this other person, I also posted the number of files scanned on two computers and the time involved. I realize each computer is different but I wanted a feel for some scanning times in v3.

Thanks Mettalica for pointing out that on a test machine with an ssd, under 1 minute doesn't seem reasonable.

That's what I wanted to know.

If anyone running v 3 wants to add to this thread, no need to post the full scan. Number of items scanned and time it takes for a Threat Scan should give me a feel for a range of scan times.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Metallica on March 01, 2017, 02:15:04 PM
Normal laptop (SSD drive)
-Scan Summary-
Scan Type: Threat Scan
Result: Completed
Objects Scanned: 401327
Time Elapsed: 3 min, 31 sec

VM with hardly anything installed
-Scan Summary-
Scan Type: Threat Scan
Result: Completed
Objects Scanned: 362595
Time Elapsed: 1 min, 56 sec

Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on March 01, 2017, 02:53:25 PM
Plodr

You will need more info than that, as you can see from the two options I posted scanning for rootkits and archives adds a lot of time in my case 4mins 35 sec. With those excluded 1min 19sec.
My pc is just an average desktop with standard Hdisk.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on March 01, 2017, 03:42:04 PM
Quote
I felt your post unnecessary as we are both fully aware that you cant compare apples with oranges. Thats all
You asked where did I see in your posts that you were comparing? I didn't, nor did I say you were. Yet that is exactly what accused me of then more importantly, you had a little fit about it in your reply. So who's post was unnecessary?

Moving on...

Again, simply comparing times and number of files scanned cannot give a good comparison. CPU horsepower, RAM quantity and speed play big roles in scan times.
Quote

-Log Details-
Scan Date: 2/16/17
Scan Time: 11:37 AM
Logfile: MB3 scan.txt
Administrator: Yes


-Software Information-
Version: 3.0.6.1469
Components Version: 1.0.50
Update Package Version: 1.0.1277
License: Premium


-System Information-
OS: Windows 10
CPU: x64
File System: NTFS
User: BWS-IV\Bill


-Scan Summary-
Scan Type: Threat Scan
Result: Completed
Objects Scanned: 389601
Time Elapsed: 54 sec
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on March 01, 2017, 08:26:08 PM
I have just seen that the last preview version has been put out for general release. I would urge caution on running this as it is still causing many problems. I fail to understand why they keep doing this.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on March 01, 2017, 09:02:28 PM
I guess if they call it a preview version, they don't have to take responsibility if it causes problems.


I note if you visit the main download page, you are offered 3.0.6.1469-1075. Yet if you tell your installed app to check for updates, it does not find that newer version. That's what I don't understand.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on March 02, 2017, 07:15:35 AM
Latest on release
Just wanted to let everyone know that we’ve started pushing out a new component package update. You should receive this automatically if you are running 3.0.5 or 3.0.6.  We are metering these updates out, so you may not receive yours immediately.

If you prefer, you may download any install our "updated" mb3-setup-consumer-3.0.6.1469-1075.exe installer from this link.  This installer is posted and available from our main website.  If you already have an earlier version of Malwarebytes 3.0.5 or 3.0.6 installed, we recommend that you uninstall the old version first and then install this newer version (please make a note of your key before doing so).   

Once installed, this update will show on your Malwarebytes 3.0 About screen as Component package version: 1.0.75.

(NOTE: if you already installed the preview of CU3 / 1.0.75, there is no need to install again.)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Metallica on March 02, 2017, 09:40:04 AM
I note if you visit the main download page, you are offered 3.0.6.1469-1075. Yet if you tell your installed app to check for updates, it does not find that newer version. That's what I don't understand.

Updates are siphoned. Any idea what would happen to our servers if we let every installed MBAM update to a newer version on the same day? ;)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on March 02, 2017, 04:10:38 PM
Quote
If you already have an earlier version of Malwarebytes 3.0.5 or 3.0.6 installed, we recommend that you uninstall the old version first and then install this newer version
Really? And yet the updates are being distributed via the automated update channels for those who wait. I assume that is not forcing an uninstall of the old first. That seems a little scary to me.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Metallica on March 02, 2017, 05:34:14 PM
I'm referring to component package updates, not going from version 2.2 to 3.0 or something similar.
In those updates uninstall is hardly ever necessary and you will be notified about them.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on March 26, 2017, 08:03:50 AM
Another component package available for preview. Which is working fine for me.

We have another component package update coming out soon and we wanted to provide the opportunity for you to test it out before we release the final version.

Please note, this BETA version should not be installed by anyone running Windows Vista 64-bit.  There;s an issue that we're working on with Vista x64, so for now you should simply skip this beta.

The bundled installer, which is Malwarebytes v. 3.0.6.1469 plus Component Package Update 1.0.96, can be downloaded from this link.

If you have an earlier version of Malwarebytes 3.0 installed, please uninstall it first and then install this new version.  Typically with these "bundled" installers for testing a clean install seems to work best.

Here's the Change Log for this release:
• Fixed issue where real-time protection modules do not enable correctly 
• Fixed Bad Pool Header BSOD while web browsing (in majority of cases)
• Fixed issue that could cause user to have to login with a temporary profile instead of their standard user profile
• Additional enhancements to improve memory usage
• Fixed issue where 3.0.5 could revert to version 3.0.0 in certain conditions
• Fixed numerous crashes, including service crashes
• Addressed several vulnerabilities
• The Web Protection block page now redirects to https://block.malwarebytes.com
• Fixed issue where Web Protection would not re-enable properly after booting back from minimal safe mode on Vista
• Numerous enhancements to overall protection and remediation   


Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on March 26, 2017, 03:41:49 PM
Quote
If you have an earlier version of Malwarebytes 3.0 installed, please uninstall it first and then install this new version.  Typically with these "bundled" installers for testing a clean install seems to work best.
But shouldn't the upgrade process be beta tested too? If all the beta testers start with a clean install, it skips testing the method the vast majority of users will employ.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: hayc59 on May 05, 2017, 04:38:08 PM
Malwarebytes 3.1.1.1722 BETA!! [Update]
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/200230-malwarebytes-version-311-beta-available-for-download/

Edit note:  Direct download link removed.  Link provided to update information.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: hayc59 on May 05, 2017, 05:06:13 PM
Its not a 'direct link'!! you have to click on the two buttons available
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on May 05, 2017, 05:13:55 PM
It is a beta, G, and that link doesn't show what was changed.  Thus, the change to the forum post.  :)
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: MikeW on May 06, 2017, 11:56:05 AM
This is the best version for me so far. For the first time since version 3 was released all is working as it should be on my PC
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on May 06, 2017, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: MikeW
This is the best version for me so far. For the first time since version 3 was released all is working as it should be on my PC
That's good news. I have to say, since running with 3.0.6.1469, Component package, 1.0.103, I've had no problems - until yesterday. Then suddenly, Ronsomware Protection turned off. I could not manually turn it on so I had to reboot.

I don't normally like to run beta versions of programs I recommend to my friends, family and clients on my primary computer because I like to run with the same versions they use. But if I run into protection problems again, I may give this one a try.

It seems to be getting some good comments (congrats to the developers  :) - I am sure it has been a rough 5-6 months). I hope it continues to do well and comes out of beta soon and hit normal distribution.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Corrine on June 07, 2017, 03:47:46 PM
Looks like the update to version 3.1.2.1733 is being rolled out.  Just got the prompt on my laptop, installed without a restart requested.
Title: Re: Malwarebytes Version 3 *BETA*
Post by: Digerati on June 07, 2017, 03:54:36 PM
I was prompted yesterday but the upgrade did not go smoothly. :( I was prompted for a restart and when the boot completed, I was still on the old 3.0.6 version. So I manually checked for updates and was again offered the latest version and again, I had to reboot. But this time it was successful. :)