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Offline ky331

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Re: MyPal Browser for ** XP ** (and beyond)
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2021, 05:57:33 PM »
MyPal 29.3.0 (released this Jul 24, 2021)

The update corresponds [to PaleMoon] version 29.3.0

Differences: Applied "prefers-color-scheme" stuff. Not applied poking with newtab and about:home for win10 - placing search icon inside the search box, i think this not needed and they did not complete that for this version. Let we see that when it will be complete.

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Re: MyPal Browser for ** XP ** (and beyond)
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2021, 11:30:59 AM »
End of MyPal ?

Just when I was so happy with MyPal that I made it my (only) "secondary" browser on a new computer system, it appears that MyPal may be coming to an end, due to an ongoing license fight with PaleMoon :-(  I sure hope they can resolve the bad blood...

https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/435



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Re: MyPal Browser for ** XP ** (and beyond)
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2021, 02:15:15 PM »
What a sad situation.  I have been successfully using MyPal as part of my browser rotation and so far it has worked well on my Windows XP, 7, and 10 machines.  Since SeaMonkey has finally had to abandon XP in order to continue development MyPal was the only ongoing browser for XP.

I tried to work my way through most of the linked exchanges and discussions from the link posted by ky331, and this is my summary, with no offence to any of the parties involved.  MyPal developer Feodor2 has tried to do a decent thing by developing and maintaining a forked version of PaleMoon that would work in Windows XP.  But there appears to be a language and understanding problem on his part about what his obligations were and are with reference to doing that.  He appears to be making interpretations that do not conform to the "legalese" of the public licensing agreements.  This is understandable from my point of view because few of us are trained lawyers who can figure out every little nuance in legal terminology.

Sadly Feodor2 has been relying on his own interpretations and those of others who are also apparently not legally trained or well-versed.  In addition in the discussion forums the MyPal supporters want to interpret "Public License" in their own ways and then to raise the "temperature" by posting emotional reactions based upon those interpretations.

While I have noticed in the past that some of the Pale Moon crew appear to have 'not so good' attitude reputations on the internet, in this case they appear to be supplying the actual Public License agreement code that is prompting their responses.  Unfortunately Feodor2 does not seem to understand what the code is asking for and neither do his supporters, and in reply to these postings of the Public License code the MyPal side is responding with emotional invective based upon their own untrained interpretations.

From my point of view the situation could possibly be resolvable if the MyPal side were to get good sound legally based interpretations of what they need to do to get in compliance.  They cannot expect the PaleMoon side to take the time to explain and lead them step by step towards compliance.  Sadly it may be beyond the means of the MyPal side to get "sound legally based interpretations" and guidance.  Relying on random and anonymous internet postings as to "what should be" (regarding "Public License" versus "Public Domain") has definitely proven insufficient.

Sigh. . . .

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Re: MyPal Browser for ** XP ** (and beyond)
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2021, 12:56:53 PM »
v_v, thanks for your thoughtful assessment of the thread. I stopped reading when it seemed to be fighting. There is enough fighting about almost any topic brought up that I tend to tune out most arguments. (I stopped watching the national news; I rely on headlines to let me know what the latest fight is about.) I do watch the local news daily.

My very biased opinion: on a good day, MoonChild and his sidekick Tobin are abrasive. On a bad day, it gets worse. I've moved away from Palemoon and only briefly tried MyPal. Our XP computers don't go on the internet.

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Re: MyPal Browser for ** XP ** (and beyond)
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2021, 01:08:11 PM »
While I discovered MyPal when looking for a currently-supported browser that still runs under XP, I don't want to overlook the fact that it runs on newer systems as well, including Win10.   In fact, I recently opted to install MyPal on a new Win10 system, as my secondary browser (EDGE being my primary).   I chose MyPal over Firefox and PaleMoon, because they're both getting too many minor updates... I know I can install them all, as I have on other systems, but I made a decision which simplifies maintenance.   

I have two XP systems at home, and still use them... occasionally... to go online.   (Of course, the bulk of my daily work is done on my Win10 systems).