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QuoteIn the U.S., absolutely! It was just this year that Pete finally got a broadband connection and Lost is still using dial-up. There are people we know on another forum still using dial-up. In fact, between AOL, Juno, 1access.net, frys.com and other companies that still provide dial-up Internet service my guess is that there are still at least 3 million people in the U.S. using dial-up. Here's a recent report about AOL: OMG: 2.1 million people still use AOL dial-up - May. 8, 2015.
QuoteIn suburban NJ, where most people consider DSL obsolete, I had two dialup accounts with different ISPs.
A few weeks ago, I checked, and both connected at 50 K or better.
I don't think the ISPs would still maintain (pay for) the access numbers, if they didn't have enough users to make it profitable.
I was just thinking of the price, because it would be all to exspencive in use here. We are paying something like 394 US$ every 3th Month for a 100/20 + 48 TV channels and then again we are paying something like 262 US$ in license yearly for watching our own public service TV-channels (radio is free).
It's an entirely different situation here, and (I suspect) in most of the US.
We have a "local calling area", that, with the exception of some big cities, usually includes your municipality, and some adjacent municipalities, where you get unlimited calls of any duration at no extra charge. It's important, when choosing a dialup provider to ensure that it has some access numbers in your local calling area.
I could stay online for as long as I wanted without affecting my phone bill.
Having said that... It's a bad idea to treat a dialup connection as an "always on" connection.
Many ISPs have a definition of "excessive use", and may charge extra, or terminate your account.
When you leave your computer for more than a few minutes, it's a good idea to disconnect.
Many dialup ISPs disconnect automatically after a few hours, but let you reconnect.
That's what makes large and/or large quantities of updates that the user can't schedule him/herself problematic.
In the other topic, I described how I did them in "batches".
Another user described delaying them until he could go to the local library and use their broadband.
Quoteyou get unlimited calls of any duration at no extra charge.
If you pay for that feature, at least that's how Verizon does it.
In PA, we have Verizon. My husband and I pay for unlimited monthly calls. My mom paid less a month because she only was allowed a set number of calls per month. That worked for her because as more and more of her friends died, she rarely used the phone as she did when she was younger. My husband and I called her rather than have her call us a) it was a toll call and b) it didn't use her monthly amount of limited calls out.
Quote from: plodr on July 19, 2015, 05:31:21 PM
Quoteyou get unlimited calls of any duration at no extra charge.
If you pay for that feature, at least that's how Verizon does it.
In PA, we have Verizon. My husband and I pay for unlimited monthly calls. My mom paid less a month because she only was allowed a set number of calls per month. That worked for her because as more and more of her friends died, she rarely used the phone as she did when she was younger. My husband and I called her rather than have her call us a) it was a toll call and b) it didn't use her monthly amount of limited calls out.
It's been 31 years since I chose my plan, but, as I recall, the one I have was "standard".
Your Mom's plan would have been considered an economy plan, that might actually cost more to a frequent user.
My parents used to pay extra to have my grandfather's area included, but it was less than calling him daily as a "toll call".
Obviously, the economy plan is not for dialup users.
It make sense to me now. The distances is off course also wider in the states and all that, and comparing it with our small country with a population on only 5.5 million people and living very close, it is maybe easier to build up an all-over broadband network here. But it would be interesting to know how much you pay for a "normal" broadband connection in the states f.ex something like 80 or 100 Mbit ?
Quote from: Frands on July 19, 2015, 07:49:41 PM
But it would be interesting to know how much you pay for a "normal" broadband connection in the states f.ex something like 80 or 100 Mbit ?
Those speeds aren't 'normal' yet. For where I'm at, with Microsoft in the back yard, we recently (last few months or so) started getting 100 Megabit connection offers out of the telcos and cable companies. Well, cable *company*. Comcast did have 100 Megabit for business but the cost was stupidly high.
We're on 100/100 fiber optic connection through Frontier for $85/month, and I want to say that 75/75 was $75, 50/50 was $65. There's also 150/150 for $125 a month which I said no to. These prices include a $5/month 'savings' by using auto-pay.
No clue what Comcast is charging. We scrapped our cable plan some time ago and haven't looked back.
And for my parents, where DSL was introduced a mere couple of months ago, they are paying roughly $50 a month for phone and for up to 3 Mbit/sec. They are, as you could probably guess, in farmland. About a mile away is a cable TV line if they wanted to pay to have it brought down the road (to which others on the road don't want to help pay for), but there's no internet available on it so why bother.
Here in mid-Michigan we are paying $49.95 for 3 megs from Comcast. Just the internet and nothing else on the bill.
The good news is im always over 3 megs. Sometimes its near 4 meg;-)
Ghost
Here is what I get for $29.99 a month: Downloads @ 48.45mbps. with 11 ms latency and Upload @ 5.22mbps with 02ms jitter and it is fairly consistent?
For $49.95 a month my ping is 28ms, dowmload speed is 3.60mbgs and upload is 0.97mbgs;-(.
Seems Niecarrah has a great deal;-).
Ghost
For $35.00 I get average ping of 8ms to 20ms depending on distance, download average 51+mps, upload 5,5+ mps.It was 15mps until January this year and we went to 50 mps for no extra cost. Can go to 75 mps for $10.00 more a month. They offer 150mps as well. Option of stand alone or add TV services, phone and alarm system. Competition is 3MPS, 19.99 and must pay additional for phone service. Standalone broadband may be 29.99 month.
Frontier isn't upgrading their services here so no fiber. However, there is hope. Greenlight Networks (https://greenlightnetworks.com/) is getting closer to my area. What they do is when enough people sign up in a neighborhood, they install the fiber within that particular square/triangle -- however it fits, particularly near an area where they've already been.
QuoteAmazingly Fast
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Monthly Price: $50/month
Standard Construction/Install Fee: $100
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Speed – up to 500Mbps download and up to 50Mbps upload
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The Big Gig
Speed – up to 1,000Mbps download and up to 100Mbps upload
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Additional Ethernet outlets: $100.00 each
In the meantime, I'm stuck with Time Warner. I haven't cut the cord to cable yet but have considered it. It costs me $141.00/month (with taxes) for cable without any specialty channels (HBO, etc.) and get an average of 22 ms Ping, D/L speed ~20 Mbps and 2.5 Mbps upload.
We keep cable tv for my husband, who is a news junkie (no special packages) and internet for me. It is a shade under $143/month. (it costs us $9/month for 3 DTA boxes attached to 3 of the 4 tvs; remove the DTA and you have no idea where to find any channel. The boxes started out free and the price just kept going up. We refuse to give Comcast more $$$ for a DVR because that cost keeps going up.)
Download around 20 Mbps, upload between 5 and 6 Mbps and a ping of around 15.
Because there is no competition, Comcast can charge what they feel like. In my mom's area, there are two cable companies so the prices don't keep rising for the addons like cable boxes. In fact, the one company, Service Electric did not require a cable box. (I think that has now changed).
In a town half way between where I live and where my mom lived, the town started its own cable company because they got tried of Comcast's high prices. As a result, Comcast's prices there are lower than any of the surrounding areas.
Well, I see that the prices is not that far from our prices because here you must add 25 % to the price before tax and other fees. The 25 % is a kind of extra tax - Grrrr....
Quote from: Frands on July 21, 2015, 03:16:00 PM
Well, I see that the prices is not that far from our prices because here you must add 25 % to the price before tax and other fees. The 25 % is a kind of extra tax - Grrrr....
I was pleasantly surprised when I got my first cable bill that included internet.
At my location, the primary broadband suppliers are the phone company, and the cable company.
Both phone and cable services are heavily taxed.
There was no additional tax, when I added cable service. :dance:
The government recently decided to regulate broadband as a "utility". They claim there are no current plans to tax it.
I wonder how long that will last? :rolleyes:
QuoteThere was no additional tax, when I added cable service.
You must add 25 % to everything what you are buying here in Denmark, except if you are registered as a firm or are owner of a shop or something like that.
The 25 % is a kind of "hidden" tax.... :Win73: . I believe we are one of the most expensive countries in the northern Europe. I have only 40 mins drive to Germany and there we can buy things alot cheaper. Ok, our wages is maybe higher than in f. ex the States but then we pay some stupidly high taxes and other fees. Welcome to Denmark :GRAFX: