This is the same build that Windows Insiders received last week. Details in Terry Myerson's blog post at First Major Update for Windows 10 Available Today (http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/11/12/first-major-update-for-windows-10-available-today/#.VkSfh27pwRQ.twitter).
FTR, it seems to be failing to install for me on my primary PC. :( It has not broken this system, but I get a notification an update has failed to complete, click here for details. Then it goes to the Windows Update page where it says a restart is needed and has been scheduled for 3:30AM. When I click to restart now, it restarts with no problem, but in a couple minutes, I get that same notification again. I have rebooted 3 times now and the same thing happens. :(
Well, running sfc /scannow from an elevated command prompt found some problems and repaired them. I then rebooted and the update immediately began to install. I found that odd because the other updates that came at the same time installed with no problems.
Once this major update completed, I ran into a couple disappointments. First, I use the Quick Launch toolbar where I have 30-some shortcuts. I have a divider icon to separate the shortcuts into groups. All but one of the dividers disappeared so I have to rebuild my QL toolbar. The other problem was a notice I got that said CPU-z was removed because it was incompatible with this version of Windows - this after the upgrade reported all my files and programs were "exactly" where they were. And oddly, CPU-z was still there and still worked.
I was very happy to see colors return to title bars, but not happy title bar colors cannot be individually set. They are tied with Start, Taskbar and Action Center.
Can you file the Quick Launch issue using the Windows Feedback app? T'is the way to let us know.
The odd thing is, I have a similar setup on my other system and it did not mess up the QL toolbar. But I will still report it as this is with W10 Pro and that is with W10 Home - though not sure that matters.
Now I realize it also totally removed all the Windows 7 games I had installed (Freecell, Spider, Solitaire, and Mahjong). I had them installed because I don't really like the newer versions from W8 or W10. I had them installed on this PC and my notebook and they are totally deleted. Not just uninstalled, but the files permanently (not in recycle bin) deleted too. :( Not cool.
Now I wonder what else they decided to remove without my permission.
Personally, I don't care for the newer versions either. I wonder if the "old style" games are available here: http://zone.msn.com/en-us/home
To install the Windows 7 version of the games into W10, see http://winaero.com/blog/get-windows-7-games-for-windows-10/. I just reinstalled the games on this machine and was happy to see my statistics for Spider Solitaire were picked up from the Registry. :) I did not install the Internet games.
Thanks for the link Digerati. I've seen a few posts from people who want some of Win 7 games in later versions of Windows. All I have to do is find this thread and send them to that link.
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Now I realize it also totally removed all the Windows 7 games I had installed (Freecell, Spider, Solitaire, and Mahjong). I had them installed because I don't really like the newer versions from W8 or W10. I had them installed on this PC and my notebook and they are totally deleted. Not just uninstalled, but the files permanently (not in recycle bin) deleted too. :( Not cool.
You're not supposed to have them.
Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the “Microsoft Solitaire Collection†and “Microsoft Minesweeper.â€https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications
I do not believe it is a "not supposed to have" situation. Note your link does not mention anything about licensing, or the like. It is all about DirectX 10 support and Microsoft wanting us to go through the MS Store to get the new versions of these "FREE" games.
I have looked but have found nothing anywhere that says or even suggests installing the old W7 games is in violation of any licensing or copyright agreement.
There are many respected sites that have shown how to revert back to the W7 versions into W8 and W10.
http://www.howtogeek.com/122145/what-happened-to-solitaire-and-minesweeper-in-windows-8/
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-get-classic-windows-7-games-in-windows-10/
http://mytechquest.com/windows/how-to-bring-windows-7-classic-games-to-windows-10/
FTR, I still use Gadgets in W10 too - just for the Pandora gadget. This in spite of the fact Microsoft does not want us to use Gadgets because some Gadgets may be dangerous.
The Win 10 update, it is basically doing a complete update install as with the original upgrade. It is a rather large download and just as time consuming or more than the original upgrade during the installation from WIN 7 or Win 8 to Win 10.
Installed on one WIN Home 64-bit, but failed on one Win 10 pro 32-bit system.
I had to leave the 32-bit system update unattended and now it will not offer the update??? It was downloading 95% when I left, but it didn't even attempt to install or offer a restart to complete the install, when I returned. The 32-bit is my test laptop.
P. S. I still use gadgets on Win 8 and Win 10 systems.
QuoteIt is a rather large download and just as time consuming or more than the original upgrade during the installation from WIN 7 or Win 8 to Win 10
. It is large but the original upgrade from W7/W8 took over an hour in many cases. This was much less.
Update hit my Surface Book today, no issue.
One item of note is if you recently upgraded to Windows 10 and the 30-day "you can roll back to your previous install of Windows" time period hasn't passed, the upgrade won't come down until that time passes. Upgrading to this release would nuke your ability to roll back.
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I did not know about the 30 roll back issue and this up date. Good to know. Is that published somewhere? I have not seen that mentioned in any of the announcements about this "Major Update". I would think it should at least be mentioned on the Windows Blog (http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/11/12/first-major-update-for-windows-10-available-today/), or by Mary Jo (http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-its-first-major-update-to-windows-10/) as this could affect a lot of buyers of new PCs that are still coming with W8.1 pre-installed.
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I did not know about the 30 roll back issue and this up date. Good to know. Is that published somewhere? I have not seen that mentioned in any of the announcements about this "Major Update". I would think it should at least be mentioned on the Windows Blog (http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/11/12/first-major-update-for-windows-10-available-today/), or by Mary Jo (http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-its-first-major-update-to-windows-10/) as this could affect a lot of buyers of new PCs that are still coming with W8.1 pre-installed.
I can't give you a link, I didn't bookmark it, and my history's been cleared.
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Yesterday, I was wondering why I hadn't been offered this update, so I started running searches. I found a statement to that effect on one of the MS web pages.
I'm expecting to see the update around the 17th of this month, when my 30 days are done.
The Windows 10 November update: FAQ (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-update-faq) includes that information:
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If it’s been less than 31 days since you upgraded to Windows 10, you won’t get the November update right away; this will allow you to go back to your previous version of Windows if you choose. After the 31 days have passed, your PC will automatically download the November update.
I did see that before, thanks Corrine. I misinterpreted the comment, "Upgrading to this release would nuke your ability to roll back." My mistake.
You can just run the current upgrade software. If you are sure you are going to keep Win 10 or wait for the update. It downloads and installs, like the the original upgrade, since it already has Win 10, it will just install the updated Win 10 version and keep your current settings.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
FYI: http://www.windowsbbs.com/windows-10/110086-windows-10-threshold-2-november-update-warning.html
FYI: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-yanks-latest-windows-10-release-from-its-download-server/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
Quote from: Pierre75 on November 22, 2015, 06:05:48 AM
FYI: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-yanks-latest-windows-10-release-from-its-download-server/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-reverses-course-restores-downloads-of-windows-10-november-update/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
My Windows 10 64-bit system just finished that massive update. It took over an hour.
Last month I installed updates and got a message afterwards that said something went wrong in the update and they would try again later. I thought that was odd, but nothing was obviously wrong and I forgot to come here and ask about it.
I got the update schedule notice this week and activated the restart today. After the whole big long nail-biting installation, where it seemed to stop several times, it eventually finished. When I logged into Windows, it promised all my files were exactly where I left them and ran through a bunch of other similar re-assurance screens. (which actually made me even more apprehensive) The sign in took over 10 minutes.
Now things seem ok, but I had a prompt to update Libre Office, and when I went to make a restore point, my protection settings were set to OFF. I turned them on and was able to make a restore point before updating the program.
The other odd thing is that I no longer have any update history in my update settings. So it seems I couldn't uninstall that previous update that had a problem, or this update even if I wanted to?
Are these things normal with this massive update?
Yes, these things are "normal" (although not what the home computer user usually considers normal). What happened is you received the "Redstone" update, issued in November. As I posted above, the reason you just received it is that it isn't offered to Windows 10 users until 31 days have passed since their original update. This is because during the month after upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, the computer can be "rolled back" to the original operating system.
IMO, previous System Restore points should just be cleared rather than Data Protection needing to be set up again. However, in essence, the "update" is really an upgrade to the newly released Windows 10 build, essentially replacing the OS, rather like a Service Pack and includes all the updates, thus the previous update history is obsolete. That is the reason why the installation takes so long. As to the "reassurance screens", that is just to give you something to look at while the installation completes.
First Major Update for Windows 10 Available Today | Windows Experience Blog (https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/11/12/first-major-update-for-windows-10-available-today/)
Windows 10 November update: FAQ - Windows Help (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-update-faq)
November was "TH2". The Restone/RS update is next year.
So glad things are not borked up. Phew!
I actually upgraded to Windows 10 many months ago. I think at that time, I might have opted out of the new feature changes though, so maybe that explains why it has been longer than 31 days. (I think that's what Corinne meant to type instead of 311?)
I appreciate you guys.... I know that when I'm freaking out, I can always come here for the voice of reason. :)
Oops! :) Thanks, Aaron.
Yes, 31 days, Typo corrected.