With the MS deadline looming for the end of the free upgrade offer, I'm interested to learn if any members here have delayed upgrading to Windows 10, and why.
I'm still running Windows 7, and am very satisfied with it. MS recently stated that they will charge a free for the upgrade in a few months, so now I'm finally thinking about doing the upgrade. However, other than continued MS support, is Windows 10 a real improvement over Windows 7? Any big headaches for those of you who have already upgraded?
I think that I read recently that for those that DO upgrade to Windows 10, MS will start charging a yearly fee to use it. Is that true, or just nonsense?
Anyway, I thought no better place to ask this question than here at good 'ol LandzDown. Very interested to hear some opinions to help me decide.
Thanks!
Whether or not it's better, the same, or worse, depends on the user. That's a decision you have to make for yourself.
If you're undecided, you can go ahead with the update, to lock-in the "free" before it's too late, and then roll it back within 30 days.
If you want to be extremely cautious, make a disk image before you proceed.
First, Microsoft will absolutely NOT start charging a fee for W10. So that is total and utter nonsense.
I do sympathize with your desire to keep W7. It was, in its day, the best Windows by far up to that point. But W7 is now pushing 7 years old. And that is getting pretty old in the IT universe. W10 is faster than W7, especially with current hardware. And more importantly, W10 is more secure than any previous version of Windows and that alone is reason to upgrade.
I have been involved with the upgrade of over 2 dozen W7 systems. Most had no problems at all. A couple required a couple extra reboots to sort themselves out. One, an older notebook, still occasionally refuses to come out of sleep mode without a full power cycle, but then works just fine after that.
I have been involved with the upgrade of many more W8.1 systems to W10 and they all were totally successful. Judging from personal experience and forum help requests, upgrading from W8.1 appears to be less troublesome. So my guess with W7 systems having upgrade issues is that is due to many W7 systems tend to have older (possibly XP era!) hardware. I must point out that it is up to the hardware makers to ensure compatible W10 drivers are available. Microsoft can only publish the necessary specs, the hardware makers must ensure their drivers are compatible with those specs.
Sadly, in some cases, users are offered the W10 upgrade with the assumption the everything is totally compatible (at least in terms of hardware), but then problems ensue after the upgrade. And that, IMO, is Microsoft's fault. So I can only advise that you ensure all your drivers are the latest before starting the upgrade.
Older software can also be a problem - especially if it starts with Windows during boot. You should make sure all your programs are compatible with W10 before starting the upgrade. If using something other than Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) and Windows Firewall for your security, I would absolutely ensure you have the latest W10 compatible versions, or better yet, uninstall them and install MSE before starting. Then stick with Windows Defender (W10's upgraded version of MSE) after that.
The upgrade process also consumes a lot of disk space. So I recommend you clean out the clutter and uninstall any programs you installed but don't use before starting. Microsoft claims you only need 8GB of free disk space for the upgrade process, I recommend at least 30GB. Much consumed during the upgrade will be freed up again once the upgrade is complete. But a large chunk will still be consumed by a folder called windows.old. This is an important folder that allows users 30 days to roll back to their previous Windows version should something go wrong, or they just cannot stand W10. After 30 days, that folder is automatically deleted (or if satisfied, you can manually delete it before that to free up the space). If you have lots of free disk space, this is not a worry.
While reports of data loss have been rare, it is always a wise precaution to backup your data before starting any major upgrade process.
Finally, if you are worried you will not like the new Windows 10 user interface (UI), don't be. While it is quite different from W7, it is much better (and more familiar) than W8's totally foreign UI and start page. Most who give it chance, soon like it very much. However, if you find you really miss the old W7 desktop and start menu, no problem. I use and recommend Start10 (http://www.stardock.com/products/start10/) which brings back the familiar W7 Start menu and desktop and for just $5 (after a generous 30 day trial period) is well worth it. Or there is Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/) which many like too, and it is totally free. StartIsBack (http://startisback.com/#home-tab) is a third alternative that many like and it is just $3.
Staying with windows 7 Home for me. Main reason for refusing the upgrade is the no control of automatic updates. If and when I buy a new PC then I would probably go for Win 10 Professional.
Staying with Win 7. We have 4 computers a desktop and netbook for the two of us. Everything works: network, printers, games, paid programs. These will be the last computers running windows I buy. In 2020, I'll pull them off the internet and we'll continue to use them as we do now except they won't be able to go on the internet.
I've kept Windows 7 on one machine merely because it is easier when helping others with Windows 7. However, I joined the Windows Insiders Program the first day it was announced and created a separate partition for Windows 10. I have stayed in the "Fast Ring" on that computer and don't even recall the last time I booted to Windows 7 there. Windows 10 has been working great -- and it is a desktop from 2008 so definitely not the latest and greatest hardware.
I have 2 PCs both running Windows 7 Home Premium and intend to stay with Windows 7 as it is supported till 2020. By then I will also be 4 score - I also have 8 family trees which I researched and date back to the 16th century. I back up every night to separate hard drives and store them in a safe. I will possibly buy a new PC with Windows 10 in 2020 and remove the other 2 off-line.
I have a Windows 7 Home laptop now converted, but have yet to do my Windows 7 Home desktop. Am still testing things out on the laptop and until I'm satisfied all is in order (or the 30 days are up-- figures workplace suddenly wanted me in extra hours -after- I did the upgrade) the desktop is staying as 7.
When/if I do upgrade it I'll make a complete savings of files to at least two hard drives before starting.
So far the laptop is fine after simply doing the download...I didn't try a clean start.
Kind of like 10. The main snags are finding out where some things are located for maintenance. Also finding as many Privacy toggles I can safely turn OFF as they allow me to locate. Also turned off Cortana as didn't like that it needed so many fingers into everything.
Also wish they'd allow me to do my own updating as past tales of Win updates does not help my digestion. Would be nice to be able to delay them for a week or two to see if other computers burst into flames first. :(
Quote from: ComicsLover on May 21, 2016, 10:58:39 PM
I have a Windows 7 Home laptop now converted, but have yet to do my Windows 7 Home desktop. Am still testing things out on the laptop and until I'm satisfied all is in order (or the 30 days are up-- figures workplace suddenly wanted me in extra hours -after- I did the upgrade) the desktop is staying as 7.
When/if I do upgrade it I'll make a complete savings of files to at least two hard drives before starting.
So far the laptop is fine after simply doing the download...I didn't try a clean start.
Kind of like 10. The main snags are finding out where some things are located for maintenance. Also finding as many Privacy toggles I can safely turn OFF as they allow me to locate. Also turned off Cortana as didn't like that it needed so many fingers into everything.
Also wish they'd allow me to do my own updating as past tales of Win updates does not help my digestion. Would be nice to be able to delay them for a week or two to see if other computers burst into flames first. :(
A few quick tips for Win 10, right click the Start button, it will give a popup, you will find quick links to familiar settings, control panel, command prompt, file explorer, etc.
If confused with which toggles that are safe to turn on or off, you can use Shutup10, it is a free download and will provide recommendations of what is or isn't safe to turn off. It will also give you a more detailed view of these toggles if needed.
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
Thanks.
I just typed Privacy into Search and it came up with the Settings an also a separate one for the laptop's camera. I turned that one to OFF as well even though when I first got the laptop before I even turned it on I taped a little piece of paper over the lens. (Yes, I'm paranoid. Besides, I never use cameras anyway.)
When it comes to doing the download, do you all recommend using a stuffed toy goat or a beanie bag sheep for the Windows Update sacrifice? (I'm vegan)
P.S. I've been told not to sacrifice a bottle of Windex unless doing a clean install.
Thanks, everyone, for your detailed responses. A rough count indicates 50% have upgraded, 50% have chose not to upgrade, and some are running both 7 & 10. Your responses gave me some deeper insight, which was helpful.
At this point I think I'll stick with Win 7. As they say, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'll just bite the monetary bullet should I decide to upgrade further down the road.
Interestingly, a group e-mail was sent last Friday to 1,400 people where I work advising everyone to "hold off" on Windows 10 until given approval by the administrators, as there was a question (worry) about W10 making some programs not work correctly, or something to that effect.
Thanks again!!
QuoteInterestingly, a group e-mail was sent last Friday to 1,400 people where I work advising everyone to "hold off" on Windows 10 until given approval by the administrators, as there was a question (worry) about W10 making some programs not work correctly, or something to that effect.
I am going to assume (1) they are talking about upgrading "organization owned" computers. (2) This software in question is something custom made for a specific purpose or is so old it was designed for XP (or before!). (3) The organization's bean-counters have not wanted to invest the necessary resources to
stay with the times. And now (4), they don't want to pay more to get with the times. :(
To make the announcement this late in the game raises concerns for me as Windows 10 has been available for testing by organizations and developers well before last year's July release to everyone else. That is more than enough time to determine if there are any questions or worries about compatibility with custom and legacy applications, then plan accordingly for a smooth roll-out and transition.
I think it sad organizations fail to recognize that investing in IT is not a "set and forget" strategy. It is an on-going requirement and should be part of every organization's (big and small) strategic 5-year business plans to stay on top of developments
proactively - always cheaper and less painful than scrambling after-the-fact and playing catch-up. Playing catch-up is typically much more disruptive and often requires many hours of either downtime or overtime for "crash-course" training. Paying overtime because business is booming is great. Downtime or paying overtime for training is not.
Replacing obsolete (but still functional) IT systems has been an expensive PITA for businesses, governments and other organizations (not to mention private consumers) since the beginning of IT. One of the reasons XP was such a security failure was big business' insistence XP support legacy hardware and software so they would not have to retool yet again for another new OS. Microsoft caved to those demands then, but suffered constant bashing over security ever since. But MS learned and while legacy support is still a concern, it is not a top priority any more - nor should it be. Why? Because hardware and software developers are not sitting on their thumbs. They are investing big time in R&D to advance the state-of-the-art. And users (most of us anyway) want our operating systems to take advantage of our new and more powerful hardware and applications.
Waiting until the last minute (or beyond) has never resulted in the best investment strategies. This is something I stress hard and right up front whenever called in on a consulting job.
Of course I may be totally off base in the case of JD's "group". And there's probably nothing he can do about it anyway. So I'll get off my soapbox now.
Old Software:
On Windows 10 I'm running some of the favorite programs I ran on Windows 98.
Quicken 2003 works flawlessly. Office 97 works as designed, with the exception of Outlook 97.
The only software that gave me problems was NOT because I was running Windows 10, but because I was running the 64 bit version, and some of the old programs were 16 bit.
(BTW: If you're a classic "DOOM" fan, you can use a "source port" like PRBoom and still indulge in the mayhem).
As someone who doesn't spend money, unless I have to, I don't see the logic in not "locking in" the free Windows 10 for future use, when Windows 7 (or 8.1) stops being supported. If you're in love with Windows 7.... roll it back!
IMHO: Microsoft handled this poorly without considering human nature. Their aggressive tactics have created resentment, and a class of people who take pride in foiling those tactics.
QuoteOld Software:
On Windows 10 I'm running some of the favorite programs I ran on Windows 98.
Quicken 2003 works flawlessly. Office 97 works as designed, with the exception of Outlook 97.
W98? Wow, that's great! I think Office 2007 is the oldest suite of apps I'm running - but they work flawlessly too.
That said, none of those are tailor made software products commissioned by a company for a specific purpose.
QuoteIMHO: Microsoft handled this poorly without considering human nature. Their aggressive tactics have created resentment, and a class of people who take pride in foiling those tactics.
I agree they could have done a
much better job with PR and upgrade implementation. But I fully believe pushing everyone to the more secure W10 platform is the right thing to do and the biggest reason for that class of people who resent this is because the company behind it goes by the name, "Microsoft". :(
Even after all these years of bad guys perpetrating offenses against computer users, people are complacent when it comes to security. And users always have been and always will be the weakest link in security. But worse, compromised computers don't affect just the users of those compromised computers. Those compromised computers are frequently then used to attack the rest of us by distributing spam and malware, or as zombies in bot-armies conducting DDoS attacks on businesses, government entities, financial institutions and anybody else the bad guy does not like that day.
So you have the bad guys perpetrating the offenses and users basically providing the means for the bad guys to do their thing - but Microsoft always gets the blame. Getting blamed for a lack of security is never a good thing.
And dividing expensive resources to maintain development on multiple operating systems just does not make good business sense either. So ultimately, it is better for us consumers for Microsoft to dedicate all its OS development resources to one line, W10.
So again, IMHO, it is not what Microsoft is doing. Rather I agree with you and it is how they are doing it. But to that, leaving it totally up to the users will draw out the process for too long, IMO. And that is not good for our collective security. I mean look at how many are still using XP - not because they cannot afford to upgrade, but because they simply refuse to.
What I think folks need to remember is Windows is just the front end to their favorite apps. An operating systems job is to establish communications between all the hardware, and to run our apps. And W10 does that very well. When I am entering text in this post, using Word, or reading my email, I am not looking at my Windows desktop.
Actually I was reluctant about WIN 10 at first about the automatic toggles and things being turned on without the average users knowledge.
It took awhile for me to study the OS a bit more in depth. I have never just been satisfied with any computer setup out of the box and I will take the time to turn off what I don't want, to include live tiles, or remove them from the Metro start area.
There are many tweaks that can be done to WIN 10 as with any previous OS, to make make it yours. As a friend of mine said, if it's free it must be for me. I have upgraded a number of systems like Digerati has stated. If setup and ran properly, it boots faster than any previous Windows OS, it is more secure than previous OS as stated, it operates much more smoothly because the eye candy isn't eating your resources. I have a number of elderly people that I help keep there OS running clean and guess what they use it with no problems. I haven't had to do any cleanups or fixes.
Is it better than XP (yes), better than Vista (of course), better than WIN 7 (yes I would have to say). Is automatic updates a problem? No
It is a users choice about what they want to use, I myself decided that Win 10 is the best option. I did wait until the second version 1511 was released. Did you know what WIN 7 was going to be out of the box? Did you know what XP was going to be out of the box? Did you you know exactly what you were getting out of the box initially with any previous OS?
All I can say I haven't had any program conflicts, they all run the same in WIN 10 as they did in WIN 7, Everything I had previously is exactly where they were before an upgrade.
QuoteI have never just been satisfied with any computer setup out of the box and I will take the time to turn off what I don't want...
There are many tweaks that can be done to WIN 10 as with any previous OS, to make make it yours.
Compared to other operating systems, Windows greatest asset is it is so highly customizable. That said, Windows greatest liability is it is so highly customizable!
As I have noted elsewhere many times, of the nearly 1.5 billion Windows computers out there, virtually every single one becomes unique within the first few minutes after first boot. Users setup their own networking, their own security, attach their own peripherals, and customize their own colors, backgrounds, programs and options. I think it highly commendable Microsoft has pulled it off so successfully. Of course, if just 1% of those 1.5 billion have problems, that's 15 million upset users. And 15 million upset users can make a lot of noise - especially with wannabe journalists blowing every problem way out of proportion with sensationalized and often totally false headlines. :(
Quote from: Digerati on May 23, 2016, 01:50:52 PM
QuoteInterestingly, a group e-mail was sent last Friday to 1,400 people where I work advising everyone to "hold off" on Windows 10 until given approval by the administrators, as there was a question (worry) about W10 making some programs not work correctly, or something to that effect.
I am going to assume (1) they are talking about upgrading "organization owned" computers. (2) This software in question is something custom made for a specific purpose or is so old it was designed for XP (or before!). (3) The organization's bean-counters have not wanted to invest the necessary resources to stay with the times. And now (4), they don't want to pay more to get with the times. :(
To make the announcement this late in the game raises concerns for me as Windows 10 has been available for testing by organizations and developers well before last year's July release to everyone else. That is more than enough time to determine if there are any questions or worries about compatibility with custom and legacy applications, then plan accordingly for a smooth roll-out and transition.
I think it sad organizations fail to recognize that investing in IT is not a "set and forget" strategy. It is an on-going requirement and should be part of every organization's (big and small) strategic 5-year business plans to stay on top of developments proactively - always cheaper and less painful than scrambling after-the-fact and playing catch-up. Playing catch-up is typically much more disruptive and often requires many hours of either downtime or overtime for "crash-course" training. Paying overtime because business is booming is great. Downtime or paying overtime for training is not.
Replacing obsolete (but still functional) IT systems has been an expensive PITA for businesses, governments and other organizations (not to mention private consumers) since the beginning of IT. One of the reasons XP was such a security failure was big business' insistence XP support legacy hardware and software so they would not have to retool yet again for another new OS. Microsoft caved to those demands then, but suffered constant bashing over security ever since. But MS learned and while legacy support is still a concern, it is not a top priority any more - nor should it be. Why? Because hardware and software developers are not sitting on their thumbs. They are investing big time in R&D to advance the state-of-the-art. And users (most of us anyway) want our operating systems to take advantage of our new and more powerful hardware and applications.
Waiting until the last minute (or beyond) has never resulted in the best investment strategies. This is something I stress hard and right up front whenever called in on a consulting job.
Of course I may be totally off base in the case of JD's "group". And there's probably nothing he can do about it anyway. So I'll get off my soapbox now.
Actually, it's a government-run medical university/hospital, and they keep everything up to date. No cost issues, and they try to stay ahead of the curve. The group e-mail was actually referring to a different problem that someone here was concerned about. As for my personal machine (2010 Sony Vaio laptop), I don't need any approvals to install software, operating systems, etc.
However, I cannot afford any down time should the Win10 upgrade not go smoothly. I have a MacBook Pro at home running Microsoft Office for Mac, yet this Sony Vaio is my "bread and butter" machine. Thus, and just for an example, these two articles -- the first from last October, the second from this month -- give me reason to pause:
October 2015: http://www.infoworld.com/article/2989972/microsoft-windows/windows-10-installation-problems-and-what-to-do-about-them.html
May 2016: http://www.itpro.co.uk/operating-systems/25802/eleven-windows-10-problems-and-how-to-fix-them-2
With that aside, my Sony is closing in on 7 years old, and I have no idea how long the internal drive will keep spinning until it gives up the ghost. At this point, I think that I'll keep Win 7 on this machine and just hit up the university for a second MacBook Pro, which I will then partition via Bootcamp to run both Mac and MS operating systems. Probably less of a hassle than trying to upgrade this oldish Vaio to Win 10. I wonder if people are having good experiences running Win 10 on partitioned Macs.
QuoteActually, it's a government-run medical university/hospital, and they keep everything up to date.
Everything up to date? You sure? I only ask because HIPAA compliance and medical records systems tends to not be up to date - only recently (I hope) finally getting rid of XP. But for what? Not W10.
As for your concerns about the upgrade failing, they are valid. But the facts are the vast majority of users upgraded with no problems. There is always a risk of something going wrong with such a major upgrade. But for that matter, with a 7 year old computer, there's a clear risk it could fail any time soon too - especially using a hard drive. So make sure you have a current backup.
Quote from: Digerati on May 24, 2016, 03:51:31 AM
QuoteActually, it's a government-run medical university/hospital, and they keep everything up to date.
Everything up to date? You sure? I only ask because HIPAA compliance and medical records systems tends to not be up to date - only recently (I hope) finally getting rid of XP. But for what? Not W10.
Well, fairly sure. It's in a 1st-world nation, yet not America.
QuoteAs for your concerns about the upgrade failing, they are valid. But the facts are the vast majority of users upgraded with no problems. There is always a risk of something going wrong with such a major upgrade. But for that matter, with a 7 year old computer, there's a clear risk it could fail any time soon too - especially using a hard drive. So make sure you have a current backup.
That's what I'm thinking also. Since W7 will be supported for a few more years I suppose that I'll hold off on the upgrade. I keep everything on this machine up to date, and currently have security overkill. Thus, not worried about any attacks. I'll think about W10 when the drive dies or when I simply upgrade to a new computer. Still thinking that it might be fun to run Windows on a partitioned MacBook, yet I don't have any real-world experience with that. Have only read about it.
QuoteWell, fairly sure. It's in a 1st-world nation, yet not America.
Actually, many 1st-world nations are behind others because the less developed countries implemented the automation more recently. The 1st world nations, which automated years ago, are now faced with massive and expensive upgrades. A project the bean counters are reluctant to fund because the old stuff still works. It is just not secure enough to protect patient confidentiality. Hospitals still using XP 2016 (https://www.google.com/search?q=hospitals+XP+2016&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=#q=hospitals+still+using+XP+2016)
Royal Melbourne Hospital still has not fixed its Windows XP virus problem (https://delimiter.com.au/2016/02/03/royal-melbourne-hospital-still-has-not-fixed-its-windows-xp-virus-problem/)
QuoteSince W7 will be supported for a few more years
Yes, but mainstream support for Windows 7 (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle) has already ended. I don't know. I am not saying you need to run out to today and buy a new computer with W10 on it. But I personally think it better to replace yours BEFORE yours dies and then you have to scramble and then due to haste, end up with something you don't really want. And of course, if no "current" back up, end up losing files you wanted to keep.
Quote from: Digerati on May 25, 2016, 01:54:29 PM
But I personally think it better to replace yours BEFORE yours dies...
Now seriously thinking about getting a second MacBook Pro and using Windows 10 via the Bootcamp partition. I've been doing some reading, and it appears that it's fairly common. Some quirks compared to running Windows on a non-Apple machine, yet I should be able to live with it. I'm an editor by trade, so I need MS Office for my clients (Word and PowerPoint, primarily). I currently use MS Office for Mac on my MacBook at home. It works OK, but it's quirky. Office runs much better on my Windows 7 Vaio. However, the drive on my Vaio is now closing in on 7 years old, so I know that the clock is ticking.
ars technica article about running W10 on a MacBook Pro Retina (mine is a late 2014):
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/04/using-the-retina-macbook-as-a-windows-pc/
Oh, and a Dymaxion map that gives us another way to think about Planet Earth, for anyone bored today. ;)
Was set to start switching over this weekend, but got cold feet again.
Take me from getting all my computers to Window 10 to only the laptop. On the desktop I'm sticking with Win7.
Yeah, it's the auto update thing. I just can't get my paranoia of all the family systems crashing at once from an unavoidable update. How do you fix when NOBODY can get online to find out what happened let alone get a fix? Too much important stuff is now tied to online to risk this....and I'm the only one of the family who retained those chilly toes enough to potentially save everyone else in the family's bacon. :)
So... one Windows 10 when site has to have that. One Windows 7 as increased insurance for the next couple of years.
Now, because I thought I was likely going to do it before the cutoff...I still have that annoying popup on my computer. Have hidden it, but it likes to come back. How do I go about wiping the notices from my computer? Also heard there was an update that auto-updated back in December, but couldn't find it on my list of updates from Installed History.
I still don't get the paranoia over WU. It is so rare that an update bricks a computer that you probably have better chances of getting struck by lightning. And to have multiple computers in a single household get bricked, better odds winning the lottery - or certainly better odds a bad guy will break into the home and steal all the computers.
"Upgrading" to W10s (especially an older computer running W7) is probably a MUCH greater risk than Windows Update bricking a W10 system. In any case, that's what image backups are for.
I'm just saying.
I'm now on my laptop and am sweating bullets.
I tried to uninstall update kb3035583 from a few days ago just like you do any uninstall of a security update and....my computer is preparing to configure.
Problem...been stuck on that for over 10 minutes. I tried shutting off anyway by hitting button half a second then waiting after it powered down. Turned back on and....same configuting screen.
Am going to end up either with a brick or Win10?! I just know it and I don't want it!
Am now on laptop trying to see the return to win 7 for my desktop if Win10 is on there now....assuming it every comes up anything...
Can I get the steps to undo that?
omg....20 minutes and still configuring.
I didn't. I tried to Uninstall the KB it rode in on. Instead when I hit ShutDown I got a configuration underway screen that has been that way now for....over 45 minutes. Even with trying to turn the power off and then on again. Now I'm afraid that when/if that screen goes away I've either bricked my main computer or have an unwanted Win10 desktop.
My laptop is now past the trial 30 days despite...yeah, I seem to recall going to do a through-the-motions revert to Win7 on this little thing, but my Update window to reverse the change never looked like the screens they showed on YouTube. So I put it off...family drama. Stuck there too.
We'll see what happens (hopefully before I have to go to work) on what I've got, but to say I'm very angry at MS right now is an understatement. I didn't have all my latest work saved to another disk! Not to mention the time loss.
Mac may just have won me back by default and without even trying.
Update: My desktop is still on Windows 7 (whew!)
However my Uninstall of KB3035583 innocently installed on 5/25/16 (and on 12/17/15?) are still listed on my system plus the GXW is still Hidden on my Notification Icons. Yes, it's hidden. Yes, :( , it's still there. Like some sort of horror movie monster.
Can no one rid me of this demonic plague?
I went and answered on a wrong yet similar topic. Forgive me for panicking, but I really did have a few important things I'd yet to backup. Think I have a few dozen more white hairs than I did a couple of hours ago.
Anyway, I'm still the owner of a Win7 computer. Unfortunately, that KB3035583 not only is still on my system, but apparently has given birth to a child (On my history with a 5/25/16 and a 12/17/15 as dates.) Yes, I did the Uninstall thing.....that's how the whole one-hour-long reconfig scare started.
Anyone have any ideas wtf happened, I'd love to hear it.
Ah, Kyer, Kyer, Kyer, you know what must have happened? I'll just bet it was the ghost of Iamskinz who hid the antidote for the demonic plague.
That said, if you are certain you do not want to upgrade your desktop computer to Windows 10, I suggest you use the GWX Control Panel (http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/).
ComicsLover,
I second what Corrine said:
QuoteThat said, if you are certain you do not want to upgrade your desktop computer to Windows 10, I suggest you use the GWX Control Panel.
I have used it for months on my 64bit Windows 7 Ultimate and it works!
Ghost.
(BTW, the ghost I was referring to is not Ghost who seconded what I said. :) )
Quote(BTW, the ghost I was referring to is not Ghost who seconded what I said. :) )
Yup and i dont carry a club either;-DDDD
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:) Thank you, Corrine, guys, for the info and the link. I swear this stuff was making me feel like a bug splat on a Window. As in there I was ---an innocent ladybug--- when suddenly the weight of double-pain (no, that's not a typo) was pressing down on me. :o
I've never changed my mind so many times in regards to a computer program, but can't shake the old paranoia that it's better to have two computers and two different os, browsers, etc just in case one gets compromised for any reason right when important work needs to be accessed.