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Title: another reason to use firefox -- and to be wary of active-X
Post by: babyoh on March 29, 2006, 02:26:45 PM
FROM: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/29/ie_patches_released/
(re: recent bugs fround in browser MS IE )

Microsoft advised users to turn off Active Scripting if they do not need the functionality. The problem is the latest issue caused by the support for ActiveX, a programming language supported by Internet Explorer to add interactive functions to websites. The problems have occasionally resulted in calls for users to switch to alternative browsers, such as Mozilla's Firefox, which does not support the Active Scripting function.

"The workaround does not fully address the problem," Determina director of security research Charles Renert said. "Workarounds turn off functionality..
Title: Re: another reason to use firefox -- and to be wary of active-X
Post by: GR@PH;<'S on March 29, 2006, 05:51:04 PM
babyoh,
well as you have found firefox is a very good alternative and even the elderly around here have it on his PC (https://www.landzdown.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmilies.sofrayt.com%2Ffsc%2Fcheers2.gif&hash=390bcf7541354f0cb76c934d80ddea5dc46f82b6)
(https://www.landzdown.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.yoxio.com%2Fimg%2F226860.gif&hash=98b5b68745e620ccd77a48345dd81d6c400b167a)
and some i think have Opera (https://www.landzdown.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.yoxio.com%2Fimg%2F220607.gif&hash=fdc39c9bd0d4f9e01d86c5d79bd1912c62dfd179)
GR@PH;<'S   :breakkie:
Title: Re: another reason to use firefox -- and to be wary of active-X
Post by: winchester73 on March 29, 2006, 06:12:10 PM
The other side of the argument:  http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9911/23/active.scripting/
Title: Re: another reason to use firefox -- and to be wary of active-X
Post by: babyoh on March 30, 2006, 03:54:24 AM
 :tease: ...the mind REEELS from all this information. every time i think i've "Got It" -- there are a bunch more things to learn.
** this is how i understand it (please correct me if i'm wrong) **
active scripting = javascript AND VBScript (visual basic)
due to design, having active scripting enabled in other aps is OK -- far more dangerous if AS is on in IE
also:
ActiveX should always be disabled or set to "PROMPT TO TURN ON" , cuz it potentially controls our os;
BUT Java applets are safer/OK.
-- is that right???
:smash: :gwave:
PS. if i have full firewall protection, i'm safe to turn on IE when i'm online to change settings, right? i'm only at risk for the majority of these nasties when i'm hitting a nefarious site, opening email etc., NOT just hanging out at my homepage (which is google)

Title: Re: another reason to use firefox -- and to be wary of active-X
Post by: GR@PH;<'S on March 30, 2006, 05:47:29 PM
babyoh,
QuoteActiveX should always be disabled or set to "PROMPT TO TURN ON"
I have mine set to Prompt me.
QuoteBUT Java applets are safer
well they are yes as long as you know and trust the site they are from.

QuotePS. if i have full firewall protection, i'm safe to turn on IE when i'm online to change settings, right? i'm only at risk for the majority of these nasties when i'm hitting a nefarious site, opening email etc., NOT just hanging out at my homepage (which is google)
if you have your firewall set to full firewall protection then you are as safe as you can be just make sure that you are using the latest version of your firewall.

GR@PH;<'S   :breakkie:
Title: Re: another reason to use firefox -- and to be wary of active-X
Post by: Eric the Red on March 31, 2006, 01:23:55 PM
Quote from: babyoh on March 30, 2006, 03:54:24 AM

BUT Java applets are safer/OK.
-- is that right???

babyoh,

The NSA have produced a .pdf about java which gives a good overview although it is now rather dated, the .pdf can be found here (http://www.nsa.gov/snac/support/java_plugin_guide_prepub2.pdf)
Title: Re: another reason to use firefox -- and to be wary of active-X
Post by: babyoh on March 31, 2006, 03:53:16 PM
 :thumbsup: WOW, that nsa site has a TON of information in it.
(i went snooping among the other topics, too... THANKS for including the link :D )
:confused:
i know the java applet PDF is dated, but, interesting to read how signed applets can be a greater risk than unsigned ones.
- is that STILL true? (if i'm understanding their point, the scenario has to include the user "PERMITING" a signed applet to run... which we'll do in the mistaken belief that if it's signed, it's "SAFE.")  :blink:
WOW. lots to know about this stuff...