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Title: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: hayc59 on August 03, 2005, 02:46:41 AM
IE 7.0 Technical Changes Leave Web Developers, Users in the Lurch
QuoteMy advice is simple: Boycott IE. It's a cancer on the Web that must be stopped. IE isn't secure and isn't standards-compliant, which makes it unworkable both for end users and Web content creators. Because of their user bases, however, Web developers are hamstrung into developing for IE at the expense of established standards that work well in all other browsers. You can turn the tide by demanding more from Microsoft and by using a better alternative Web browser. I recommend and use Mozilla Firefox, but Apple Safari (Macintosh only) and Opera 8 are both worth considering as well.
Read About It: WindowsIT Pro (http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/47208/47208.html?Ad=1)
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Totro on August 03, 2005, 07:33:37 AM
This could be another case of MS may wake up after the horse has bolted and then try to close the stable door.

But there again,  MS certainly ain't stupid - they do respond when they get enough of a whiff of bad publicity and indeed have done a lot to alleviate the earlier problems with IE. Personally I think most of the damage (PR wise) was done in the early days when the default settings were set for ease of use - rather than for security. MS has at least addressed those issues and more.

I only ever use IE as I believe that;  if it is "set-up properly" then I have found no serious dangers using it.  I wonder how many users there are who complain about it who have the wrong settings set or don't have the latest MS Critical Updates and/or who have little or no basic security on board - like a good firewall, good A/V and a few other "protective" proggies. It is always easy to bash the tall poppies - what I fear is that some of the people who like to cut the tall poppies down are themselves remiss in looking to their own settings/behaviour when surfing ...

PS hayc59 You forgotttted the linnnnnkk! <<<<EDIT this out when you fix it LOL

Cheers  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: hayc59 on August 03, 2005, 04:33:24 PM
its right after where it says read about it windows IT pro
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Totro on August 03, 2005, 11:09:22 PM
QuoteRead About It:

:uhm: That's where it orta be but all I see is what I copy pasted  :shock:

You must be using the invisible ink again  :tease:

Anyone else missing the link???
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: hayc59 on August 04, 2005, 12:04:05 AM
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/47208/47208.html?Ad=1
there ya go :)
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Corrine on August 04, 2005, 01:00:51 AM
Quote from: hayc59 on August 03, 2005, 02:46:41 AM

Read About It: WindowsIT Pro (http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/47208/47208.html?Ad=1)
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Totro on August 04, 2005, 04:07:44 AM
Ya see  hayc59  :)

Even the Boss can not see nuffink and I too am still seeing nuffink - I think you been lookin' at those pictorial delights (that you posted you know where...) for too long ...  :tease:
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Vietnam Vet on August 04, 2005, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: Totro on August 04, 2005, 04:07:44 AM
Ya see  hayc59  :)

Even the Boss can not see nuffink and I too am still seeing nuffink - I think you been lookin' at those pictorial delights (that you posted you know where...) for too long ...  :tease:


Hi Totro,

I can see the link just fine and it is in Corrine's post as well. You've got something running that is blocking that URL, apparently.

Now about those pictorial delights, what did you say that Url was?!? :D
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Corrine on August 04, 2005, 09:48:14 PM
I see the link, VV sees it, but Totro doesn't.  :(

I wonder if it has anything to do with your monitor settings?   :uhm:
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Totro on August 05, 2005, 12:45:22 AM
Quote from: Vietnam Vet on August 04, 2005, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: Totro on August 04, 2005, 04:07:44 AM
Ya see  hayc59  :)

Even the Boss can not see nuffink and I too am still seeing nuffink - I think you been lookin' at those pictorial delights (that you posted you know where...) for too long ...  :tease:


Hi Totro,

I can see the link just fine and it is in Corrine's post as well. You've got something running that is blocking that URL, apparently.

Now about those pictorial delights, what did you say that Url was?!? :D


Vietnam Vet See your PM  8)

This is interesting - I do have blocks in my Firewall (even some ISP's total ranges blocked) but I can't see why that would prevent the link being "visible" by "hovering" the mouse -  I normally don't see the effect of a block unless I actually click (attempt to visit) a blocked site.

Can anybody give me the link in "disguised" form (i.e. in dot form) so it doesn't trigger - and/or better still the IP num - I can then see what happens on a manual direct browser entry ... Thanks

Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Corrine on August 06, 2005, 01:53:12 AM
Quote from: hayc59 on August 04, 2005, 12:04:05 AM
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/47208/47208.html?Ad=1
there ya go :)
Can you see that?  I notice you also had a problem with hayc59's post in the Events Forum, seeing Birth instead of Birthday.  Have you been into GR@PH;<'S brandy?  :D
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Totro on August 06, 2005, 11:47:32 AM
No the birth one is how everyone would have seen it then (when it was first posted) off to the R/H side (Just a normal field compression)

And I'm talking there as when viewed from the main forum front page where all the last posts to the right are "Blah Blah ....." (field restriction)

Do you know what's the disguised name of the link or the IP num?

Oh and talking of your original B'day thread started by hayc59 - when he originally posted I could see the pic he posted (now its RED X) but that comes and goes for me with the fact that hayc59 regularly swaps his sigs and sources around. Some times I see his sig. sometimes I get a RED X (but thats because he has swapped his source link in and out of zones that just happen to co-incide with blocked zones in my systems.

Currently the pic in your B/D greet is sourced from http://www.massamune.net/userfiles/hayc59/HPblink.gif and won't show - but there is a logical reason for Red X which we all know but I am intrigued still with the invisible ink trick ... I still think you are all having a lend of me  8)
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: hayc59 on August 06, 2005, 02:22:51 PM
Totro, Link Fixed
Massamune server is down
so sorry
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Vietnam Vet on August 06, 2005, 03:41:17 PM
Totro, can you see this one?
http://63.88.172.66/Article/ArticleID/47208/47208.html?Ad=1
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Totro on August 07, 2005, 01:29:55 AM
Hi all,  :)

re links ....

This is good link ...........> Clicky (http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/8325/dancingmoon7yz.gif)

And

This one .............>  8) (http://www.landzdown.com/index.php/topic,629.msg3688.html#msg3688) ...  is specially for V V (click the smilie ...)

But if you really want to see something special ........check this out >>>>                                              <<<click there ...


That last one has to be seen  phwoar!!! ....... it will be like nuffin you have ever seen before ... It is absolutely stunning ... don't you think? Bet you've never seen such whacking great *@$^& as them ...



8)
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Totro on August 07, 2005, 02:34:28 AM
No just joking  :)

I shall let you into wot I did dun founded out - which woz wot I suspected all along - but you lot wouldn't give me the code I asked for ...

I got the second bit of proof I needed from Vietnam Vet's last post. I had a look at it in raw code edit mode and saw the offending piece of code .......> Ad=1

My particularly tight security, which protects me from more than just "Nasties" - was not only preventing me from going to the link it was preventing me from even seeing the link in the first place!

So I am not as darft as I thought I was ... and I am not yet entirely blind ... (only get that way when sharing a session with Hammy in the drinks room ...)

This has been an interesting exercise - I knew what that proggie of mine did but I have never witnessed it hide a clicky link before - even when it was copy/pasted! - so we live and learn eh?

8)

Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Vietnam Vet on August 07, 2005, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: Totro on August 07, 2005, 01:29:55 AM

This one .............>  8) (http://www.landzdown.com/index.php/topic,629.msg3688.html#msg3688) ...  is specially for V V (click the smilie ...)

OOOH, I do like links 'specially made for me! :moreevil: Actually, I did see that thread after reading your PM, just forgot to thank you for the link.

As for the original link in question, I run into that on a regular basis when reading a post that contains a link to something posssibly questionable. I use the last free version of Adshield(beta) with the AGNIS for Adshield ad block list from Eric Howes. Have to turn the Block listed hyperlink option off to see many links or even see the complete HijackThis logs if they contain a bad link. Ironically, this particular link was not blocked, although Adshield does block what it identifies as a possible web bug from ehg.hitbox.com. Did not check to see if there were any ads blocked on that site or not. Just a little extra info for your amusement only. :D
Title: Re: Paul Thurrott Impressions On IE7
Post by: Totro on August 08, 2005, 12:03:03 AM
 :thumbsup: