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I was thinking more about possible driver conflict. VMWare has their own drivers.
I see. Yes, I'm aware they have the driver for the hypervisor and USB and so on, but in this case I'd have expected the system not to start at all, even the first time around. But we don't know for certain which patch was responsible, so all of this is speculation.

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I am trying to determine if VMWare had an update that you installed or didn't install in your restored image which may have been different from your live system prior to installation of these backups that may have contributed to your first install of Windows Updates.
Nope, no updates for VMware lately. Also, the error is a loader error, not a runtime error, so it seems to indicate that one of the MS patches was gone wrong.

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Alright, must have been a one-off, indeed. I rebooted - twice - and all seems to work fine after installing the last remaining patch.

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Those five installed fine together. KB2887069 (required reboot) and KB2892074 (didn't require reboot, but I did it anyway) and KB2893294 (required reboot) also installed fine (one by one) and after reboot everything seemed normal.

The last one I'll test tomorrow, because it's the highest risk one in my book (and I don't want to walk over to the office again tonight ;) ).

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Creating a full system backup and then installing one-by-one does sound like the best way to track the source of the problem.
I'm on it, basically I updated to pre-Tuesday patch level. Now I'm taking a backup. After that I'll install non-security-patches. If that goes well, I'll try the remaining security patches one by one.

So, the ones I am installing together are:

  • KB2817619
  • KB2898785
  • KB2891804
  • KB2904266
  • KB2913152

The ones I am going to install one by one are

  • KB2887069
  • KB2892074
  • KB2893294
  • KB2893984

I would consider paying particular attention to MS13-101 Microsoft Security Bulletin MS13-101 - Important : Vulnerabilities in Windows Kernel-Mode Drivers Could Allow Elevation of Privilege (2880430) but also the several others that require a restart (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms13-dec).
Yep, I was thinking along those lines as well.

It is also possible that it was a corrupt download.
Doesn't Windows Update do integrity checking? I'd think so. If the judgment of Startup Repair wouldn't have been so clear ("Bad patch"), I'd doubt it. But perhaps some on-disk error caused the bad patch and from there it just crumbled? ...

As is advised when installing Service Packs, perhaps it would be a good idea to not be running on battery (actually plug your laptop into an outlet) and also connect directly to the modem rather than using Wi-Fi.
Good point. In my case it's a traditional desktop machine, though, and the network connection is via company LAN.

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Hey Corrine,

so far I know of no one else in the company who reported a problem. I made our admins aware of my problems, so they take special care when applying updates. I am almost back to normal, where almost means that aside from all the program updates and settings since the previous backup I now need to install the Windows updates.

This is what I am going to try after taking another full system backup before that step. And if that fails again, I can perhaps backtrack more easily. Maybe I should exclude the latest set of updates from my update installation first and then install them one by one to see? ...

Could of course always be a one of ...

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For the sake of anyone who reads this thread quickly [as I did initially], just want to stress that the article you link to above is from APRIL's Windows Updates, not this month's.

I understand you say you're experiencing the same symptom now...
Exactly. Sorry if I was unclear.

@winchester73: *hat tip*

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Further notes: for obvious reasons I am not running any anti-malware software on that machine, but I am confident that no malware is the culprit, since I didn't have to work directly with malware in a week or so (and also rebooted in between).

Also, I do not know if one of the security updates or one of the usual updates is responsible, which is why I chose this subforum.

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Hi there,

I am getting the following symptom: http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/04/12/patch-tuesday-fatal-system-error/ and that must be due to the Windows update I ran prior to the reboot.

It rebooted kinda successfully once, but I take that this was mostly because some of the patch processing happens after reboot.

However, even when I had this seemingly successful reboot, I got a (PE/DLL) loader error code directly in the native error format: 0xC000007B, which has the symbolic name STATUS_INVALID_IMAGE_FORMAT according to my copy of the Windows Driver Kit.

So since I got that when attempting to start VMware Workstation 8 (which suggests that a particular DLL is involved here), I rebooted. From then on I received the fatal system error similar to the above.

Now, I tried the Startup Repair, obviously, which was "fixing disk problems" the first time around.

I'm not really looking for solutions from you folks (I have an older backup I can use), just wondering whether anyone else sees that error. Obviously I let the Startup Repair send the error report, which - I guess - would mean that MS has the info about the patch problem already.

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Web News / Re: National Sex Offender Registry
« on: December 11, 2007, 10:26:41 PM »
Sorry I got you all riled up!
Actually you didn't and let's say I'd be father of a kid which became victim of such an offender I wouldn't be sure whether I could think rationally enough to write something as what I wrote before. But in fact it is our duty, the duty of those who are not directly affected, to be empathetic enough to feel with the victims, but also keep the whole judicial system balanced.

But I think people need to stop and think before they let urges get the best of them
Agreed. In fact this seems to be a struggle between rational thinking and the urges (which are more like instincts). So no wonder some people can't control them. BTW: there was (is?) a special program which has even been advertised on German TV and targeted especially at pedophiles. The slogan was (literal translation) "Do you like children more than you like?" and the program involved (involves?) psychological treatment of people who have the feeling they could become offenders. And yes, there were actually participants in the program. Maybe something similar could actually help in the US, because in my opinion prevention if by far more important than a punishment after it's too late?!

But also, studies done in the US show that rehabilitation fails for the most part and these crimes are committed again? And if I had a sex criminal living near me, I'd be VERY leary.  That person would have to work double to prove to me they have paid, and will not be that kind of person again? But I would give them the chances,  being all the while leary.
And rightly so. This is anyone's right and I don't question that. But it seems you wouldn't kill such a person. This is the part I condemn - anything else would be lynch law.

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Web News / Re: National Sex Offender Registry
« on: December 11, 2007, 05:47:06 PM »
Oh well, tough <edited>  If they would not have done what they did, things wouldn't happen!   :muahaha: Perverts! :soapboax:
Hmm, don't get me wrong, but why don't you simply introduce the death penalty for these offenses then? Because that was basically a death penalty, however cruel the offender may have been. In my country the offense is counted as "compensated" after the penalty (e.g. imprisonment) is over. Don't you have the concept of re-socialization?

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Web News / Re: National Sex Offender Registry
« on: December 11, 2007, 08:02:38 AM »
There is another side to the problem, though. Read on: http://on-murders.blogspot.com/2007/12/megans-law-listing-may-have-led-to.html


Just as a side-note and by no means intended to depreciate your efforts.

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Security Alerts & Briefings / MD5 is dead
« on: December 01, 2007, 11:40:13 AM »
http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/SoftIntCodeSign/

(... should probably be in the "Security Alerts & Briefings", but since no one has write access there, but the mod)

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Jokes / Re: The Out-of-Towner
« on: August 14, 2007, 08:46:16 PM »
Good one! Thanks. :lol:

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