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Hmmm, it still show .17 in my PM and in Edge it is 1.23.0.

And I am sure it will work just fine. It is just too bad these blockers are even necessary in the first place. Oh well.

I see the same things, Corrine.

@satrow - I see those too but neither shows if those versions are the most recent available and neither have a "Check for updates" link.

One thing that just surprised me with the Edge version is that uBO was disabled. I don't know when that happened - nothing yelled at me. And when I tried to move the slider over to enable it again, I got a pop-up that said,

The newest version of "uBlock Origin" has been disabled because it requires additional permissions.
When I move the slider to enable it again, I am not prompted to give it any additional permissions, but it is enabled again.  ???

Not sure how I feel about this - yet. There does not seem to be an easy way to determine if the installed version of uBO is the most recent. I say, "not sure" because it was not something I worried about, or even checked, before. I'm confusing myself.  ???

Internet / Re: Compare Your Browser With Microsoft Edge Dev
« on: February 14, 2020, 06:24:12 PM »
Having all that may not be helping your computer's performance in general but I don't see it affecting these scores. But then I don't use any of those products. Windows Defender, especially in Windows 10, is just fine, as is Windows Firewall, IMO. At least none of my systems have ever been compromised with that setup. I do have Malwarebytes as a supplemental scanner - but then I feel everyone should have a supplemental scanner regardless their primary anti-malware solution of choice.

If me, I would disable Webroot and Voodooshield and see what happens. If no change in performance, you can enable them again - or just leave them disabled.

Internet / Re: Compare Your Browser With Microsoft Edge Dev
« on: February 14, 2020, 05:47:21 PM »
Hmmm, except removing the data (coaxial) cable does not reset the modem or connection. That typically takes either an internal command from the admin menu, a press of a reset button on the modem (if it has one) or the most common way is with a power recycle - unplugging the power connector, waiting 30 - 60 seconds, then plugging the modem back in. I don't know what might have happened by disconnecting the coax cable. I suspect it was coincidental rather than an actual reset.

The difference between 66.9 and 77 is really not that great and could be explained by simple changes in network traffic.

For example, I have made no changes to my computer or my network and just now today, Speedometer results for Edge were 93.9. compared to 85.1 yesterday.

Internet / Re: Compare Your Browser With Microsoft Edge Dev
« on: February 14, 2020, 01:23:52 PM »
Well, again, if your contract says "up to" 60, then technically, 25 still complies with your contract.

Internet / Re: Compare Your Browser With Microsoft Edge Dev
« on: February 14, 2020, 01:00:14 PM »
Edge 31.4
PM 14.2

I think I have problem with my internet connection...
It is probably more to do with your service contract with your provider and not an actual "problem". Check your speeds with and Then check your contract to make sure you are getting what you pay for. If not, contact your ISP and complain. Hopefully, the contract states a minimum and not something vague like “up to” some speed.

Internet / Re: Compare Your Browser With Microsoft Edge Dev
« on: February 14, 2020, 12:30:37 AM »
I've been using Edge as my default for a few weeks now and I have to say, I like it. AFAIK, every site I have visited has displayed properly - certainly quickly. Including some that my previous default, PM, refused to render properly. My water/trash/sewer utility company's website for example, didn't like PM and is a primary reason I gave Edge a chance again one the "new" Edge came out. That said, I suspect it was the utility company's rejection of PM rather than PM failing to render it.

I just ran that Speedometer test on Chrome, Edge, FF, IE, and PM. Surprisingly (I think), it failed to run with IE.

PM only scored 25.1. FF scored 73.8. Edge got 85.1 but Chrome eked out a win with a slight lead of 87.9. I re-ran Edge and Chrome 2 more times and got similar results, where Chrome slightly edged-out Edge (pun intended).

Internet / Re: CCleaner or Glary Utilities or Nothing?
« on: February 06, 2020, 07:49:37 PM »
I have that program too but really don't use it that much. For me, my main concern is my all my document files. And I just make sure I have current backups for them.

Internet / Re: CCleaner or Glary Utilities or Nothing?
« on: February 06, 2020, 07:31:40 PM »
Thanks. Of course, your mileage may vary. I can only tell you about my experience. And while I have confidence CCleaner will not break my computers, I still keep regular backups - just in case.

Internet / Re: CCleaner or Glary Utilities or Nothing?
« on: February 06, 2020, 06:31:40 PM »
I have been a long time user and fan of CCleaner. I see no reason it cannot be used regularly to "clean" out the disk clutter. Its Drive Wiper feature is nice too.

While I have used its Registry cleaner 100s (if not 1000s) times without incident over many many years (not once has it ever bricked a computer I used it on), I NEVER use it to fix a broken computer, nor do I use it thinking it will "optimize" my computer or make it run better. Plus, when I use it, I use it starting when the computer is new. That is, I won't use it on a computer that has been in use for several years and never had the Registry cleaned.

And for the record, CCleaner's Registry cleaner is the only Registry cleaner I would ever consider using and that is for 3 reasons. (1) It always prompts to backup the Registry before cleaning, (2) the restore from backup works, and most importantly (3), it is very conservative. It will not find 1000s and 1000s of "problems" nor will it find problems then strongly urge me to pay for something to fix them.

I note there is no evidence Registry cleaners, even CCleaner's, improve performance or increase stability.

However, using CCleaner's disk cleaner to clean out old cookies, old temporary Internet files and other junk and clutter can keep Windows working optimally. It can also improve hard disk defragging times and efficiency, and improve malware scan times. And it can increase free space which can actually extend the life span of SSDs (which may be important on older and smaller SSDs).

But so can Windows' own Disk Cleanup. That said, I prefer to clean out the clutter with CCleaner because I can tell CCleaner which cookies to keep. So, for example, I can tell it to keep Landzdown cookies so after cleaning, I don't have to look up and enter my log-in credentials again.

I tried Glary years ago but stuck with CCleaner. I found it's too aggressive for my taste and did not see any advantage with its other features. I also did not feel comfortable with its marketing hype about improving performance. That said, it has been around for many years and has earned a reputation for NOT breaking computers.

Sadly, many will automatically label both products as evil because they contain Registry cleaners and those folks feel Registry cleaners are evil. All Registry cleaners! While it is true that some, especially in the past, Registry cleaners, disk cleaners and computer optimization programs are truly even, I personally don't think it fair to automatically lump them all together. CCleaner is not evil. I suspect Glary Utilities is not either.

Internet / Re: SpeedyFox
« on: December 24, 2019, 12:43:41 PM »
I quoted you where you said "same browser settings" so I don't know what it is you feel you fixed. Regardless, I said what I intended to say so from my perspective, nothing has changed.

Again, was not making a statement of fact. I said "I'd be interested in seeing... ." and "chances are... ." Truth be told, I'm no longer interested. I have preparations to make for the kids and grandkids tomorrow.


Merry Christmas to all!

Internet / Re: SpeedyFox
« on: December 23, 2019, 09:12:31 PM »
I still prefer PM too. But uBlock Origin is bugging more and more lately - especially with search results. Oh well. That too is OT.

Internet / Re: SpeedyFox
« on: December 23, 2019, 08:41:06 PM »
Have you used it?
I used to use with IE years ago because I had several 100 saved bookmarks/favorites. But when I stopped using IE, I stopped saving bookmarks in my browser.

I have enabled the Quicklaunch toolbar in W10 and have links to the 17 forum sites I visit regularly. And for most other sites, I have links to their log in page in my password manager.

You think same browser = same browser settings/Add-ons/plugins and that CPU speed and load, drive speed, free/available memory differences are irrelevant, or minimally different across user installs. Don't assume, test for yourself, you might learn something new.
I don't understand how this line has turned sour. I sure didn't mean it too.

I never said anything was irrelevant.

But I contend if you saw improvement, chances are others will too. How much will certainly vary machine to machine and there will also certainly be some who see no change at all.

I just said I would be interested in seeing the results of a test. Sorry for causing consternation.

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