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Thanks all... that's cleared it up for me.

Cheers, Moose  :Hammys pint:

Thanks again GR@PH;<'S.  :goodie:

I'm sorry if this is bad form, but can I just ask this bit again in case someone is able to explain it to me please?

---> Do I have to give myself any access rights to their accounts or anything, or will any scan run by an administrator check the whole computer?

Thanks GR@PH;<'S... I have the only admin account on both the notebook and the desktop. Do I have to give myself any access rights to their accounts or anything, or will any scan run by an administrator check the whole computer?  Obviously I don''t want to run the same programs unnecessarily, but I don't want to miss stuff out either!

Cheers again, Moose.  :GRAFX:

Hi all.  I am a little confused as to how the separate user accounts work on both XP Pro and Vista.  I have recently set up our family to have separate user accounts on our desktop (XP Pro) and notebook (Vista).

I have installed the usual blend of security software (AdAware, Spybot S+D, CCleaner, Spyware Guard, AVG etc) and when I just had one user (administrator) account I had it all running fine. 

My problem is that I'm not sure if the programs still run on separate user accounts, and whether a scan initiated by me as the administrator will check/clean all the computer or just "my bit". None of the others are likely to remember to run scans etc and update the software if it needs to be done separately, so if this is the case then I presume that I will have to set up a load of scheduled tasks on each user account to get it done.

Could someone tell me which is correct - ie does a scan on my account check everything or not - and maybe give me some tips as to the best way to set it all up (for instance, can I schedule the same application to run separate scans on different user accounts at the same time, or do I have to "stagger" the times through the night so that each application and each user account is only doing one thing at a time?)

Hope I've explained it properly.

Cheers, Moose   :thumbsup:

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: security issues...
« on: March 29, 2008, 01:15:20 PM »
... that's what I thought too, Eric.  However, I must have messed it up somehow, because now it works perfectly and starts in child mode.  That's what happens when a donkey like me tries to install and run programs on a computer!  As you can imagine, when my 8 year old gets a bit older he's going to have no problem shutting me off my own computer   :oops:

Cheers, Moose   :Hammys pint:

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: security issues...
« on: March 27, 2008, 02:04:47 PM »

Thanks for that advice Eric.  I've downloaded it and it seems to be just what I'm after.  I've come across one problem that's a bit odd though - it seems to always start in "parent mode". I expect there's a setting that I need to change, so I'm going to email them to ask for help.  I'll post here if I get any answers, in case anyone comes across this thread and has the same trouble.

Cheers again for the reply.... Moose   :Hammys pint:

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / security issues...
« on: March 25, 2008, 09:35:52 AM »
Hi all.  I haven't been here for a while, but I'm guessing (hoping!) that the advice is still as spot-on as ever...  If I've posted this in the wrong place please move it as necessary.

We have Windows XP (SP2) and use Firefox. I am about to start helping my 8 year to learn to use the internet to get information for school projects etc. I won't be letting him surf alone yet, but I would like to use some sort of "Parental Control" to avoid me having to answer questions about pictures of naked women and golf balls etc etc!  To be honest I'm not a great fan of any sort of censorship, but it would seem reasonable at 8 years old to protect him from some of the bad stuff out there. I've never used anything like this before, as I feel big enough and ugly enough to deal with whatever I come across - and I just rely on my security tools to deal with any problems, rather than limit me to what I can or cannot view.

I have set up a separate profile on XP with limited rights, so he's got his own little icon and documents folders etc. So far I have set up the Fox Filter add-on, and I have also installed BlueCoat K9 Web Protection to keep an eye on him whilst he's browsing. (I did experiment with Glubble, but found it a bit too babyish - I would like him to learn to use the net using bookmarks etc and a more "normal" format). I also use WOT, and have explained to him that he should only click on links with all of the "rings" coloured green.

Whereas I think I've managed to set up the FoxFilter so that it works differently on his profile than mine, I am having a bit of bother with the K9 program in that it would appear to be working across the whole computer, so that if I want to browse freely myself I have to remember to reset it to the highest settings to make it secure for him afterwards.

Has anyone got any suggestions - either about K9 settings that I've missed, or about better ways to set the whole thing up? For instance is there any benefit in setting up his profile to use IE for browsing, and maybe using some different Parental Controls, or even - as I've just realised it works on Windows too - would I be better using Safari as a browser for him, or all of us?

Finally is there any way I can do anything as an administrator to alter his profile on XP to limit the programs that he can use, or is that asking too much?

Many thanks in advance for any help/advice.

Cheers, Moose.   :Hammys pint:

Thank you for all the replies... sorry I took a while to get back to you - a little family holiday kept me away from the computer for a while. As you can imagine it was a tough choice... wet and rainy Essex - or sunny Cyprus, beach bar, cold beer, rugby world cup on a big screen etc etc!!

Cheers, Moose   :Hammys pint:

Hi all. I hope this isn’t bad form, but I’m posting this question on a few different forums to try and get a broad spectrum of views. I would appreciate any advice or people’s comments on their experience with different routers and with different ISPs, or any suggestions as to how I can improve things …

We have a Dell Dimension 8300 (spec at the bottom of this post) which we use as a family computer. For various reasons this computer is in a top floor extension room, about 20’ away from our phone line master socket - but this distance is through several walls and 2 floors. In the near future we intend to get a laptop for our children to do their homework etc on, and we anticipate this being mainly used in the kitchen. The kitchen is on the same level as the master phone socket and again about 20’ away - but this time only through a couple of walls. At present I have a BT Home Hub to connect my PC to the internet through a wireless connection. We do live some distance from the exchange, but quite often my download internet speed is only about 30-40 kbps. This is obviously very slow, and BT have been unable (or unwilling) to help me sort it out - they‘ve done line tests which show it should be faster, and their only suggestion was to connect via the test socket under the cover of the master socket - this made no difference.

I am fed up with BT, but fortunately I am coming to the end of my contract with them and investigating other options.  I think I should be able to get a better router if I buy one separately rather than keep using the Home Hub - has anyone got any suggestions about brands or what to look for? Also is it possible to get a “range extender” so I can put it half way from the main router (which I have been told needs to be connected to the master phone socket) to the desktop upstairs?

Finally, has anyone (I guess this will be a UK only question) got any input for me on ISPs. I guess I’m the same as most people when I say that my priorities are reliability of connection and equipment, good customer service, and finally the ability to provide a reasonably high broadband speed… we don’t use the net to download films yet, but we could really do with 2-4 Mbps for streaming videos and the number of songs the boys want to download.

Many thanks to any of you that have got this far, sorry it’s boring but we really would appreciate any help you can give us.

Cheers, Moose and family.

Dell dimension 8300 with a Pentium 4 with hyperthreading technology (no idea, just copying it!)
3.0GHz 800fsb and 1MB cache
8x/4x DVD+R/+RW and 16x DVD
120GB 1st SATA hard drive (7200rpm) with 8MB Databurst cache
2.5GB DDR 400 Dual channel memory (2x256MB, 2x1GB)  (was 2x256, I added the extra memory myself, so it might not work properly)
Creative Labs 5.1 Audigy2 Audio card
128MB DDR NVidia GeForce FX 5200
Windows XP Pro SP2

... and in an effort to keep all the horrible things away, I've got: AVG 7.5 internet security suite, AdAware 2007+, Spybot S+D, Privacy Guardian, Spyware Blaster, Spyware Guard, Spyware Doctor, Reg Mech, Windows Defender and CCleaner - all of which I keep updated regularly (although after a bad experience with Reg Mech I've still got it - but daren't use it!) I also run Secunia PSI beta to try and keep me on top of my updates, but if anyone can suggest a better way to do this I’d be grateful as it appears to have stopped working since a foray into the inside of the computer to upgrade the memory!

Thanks again Aaron, great stuff.  That's got it all sorted - I bet it was all really basic to you but it helped a lot, cheers.  I'll set a new SR point now as well, for when I mess something else up!

All the best,  Moose   :thumbsup:

Thanks to both of you for the quick replies...

GR@PH;<'S .... I haven't used Reg Mech for ages - months ago I messed up badly and have steered clear since then... didn't really understand about how to make a backup so thought best leave well alone.

Aaron .... don't know what it is, but Tweak UI worked a treat!

Thank you both again for your help.

I'm not sure if it's connected, but I've run my Spybot S+D, and it's found something it wants to get rid of.  It's to do with windows firewall, and I'm not sure if I should let the Spybot repair it or not - could one of you have a quick look at the screenshot I've attached and give me a clue whether to let it work its magic or not?

Cheers, Moose.  :thumbsup:

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Hi again...

I'm not sure what I've done but I've lost a lot of icons off my desktop.  The short cuts are still there and working, but out of the 50 or so icons there are only 10-15 which have the correct "picture", the rest are all the same (which I guess is a sort of default icon).  Most of the icons are also missing from the start menu, but strangely these are not consistent with the missing desktop ones - ie Napster is correct on the desktop but missing from the start menu, Paintshop is missing from the desktop and correct on the start menu!! I have just opened the "My Docs" folder, and with the exception of my pics, videos and music all the icons are blank there too.

The only thing that I've done recently is install a flight sim program, which loaded ok but crashed after an hour or so of gameplay.  No idea if that's related, but I thought I'd mention it.  I've tried using system restore, but that hasn't solved it either -just uninstalled the flight sim!!

Anything spring to mind please, or am I going to have to install everything again?

Cheers for any help, as ever.... Moose  :thumbsup:

My spec, should it matter...
Dell dimension 8300 with a Pentium 4 with hyperthreading technology (no idea, just copying it!)
3.0GHz 800fsb and 1MB cache
8x/4x DVD+R/+RW and 16x DVD
120GB 1st SATA hard drive (7200rpm) with 8MB Databurst cache
512MB DDR 400 Dual channel memory (2x256)
Creative Labs 5.1 Audigy2 Audio card
128MB DDR NVidia GeForce FX 5200
Windows XP Pro SP2

... and in an effort to keep all the horrible things away, I've got: AVG 7.5, Norton Personal Firewall, AdAware SE+, Spybot S+D, Spyware Blaster, Spyware Guard, Spyware Doctor, Reg Mech, Windows Defender, CCleaner,

Thanks for that... no doubt I'll be back with more grief soon!

Cheers, Moose   :Hammys pint:

Hi again all,

First comment -- now that you have things properly running again and have learned the ins & outs of using System Restore, keep in mind that if you turn off System Restore, reboot, you will have lost ALL restore points, both good and bad.  I know in your situation, you had some bad restore points so the situation is a bit different.  Generally speaking, however, an infected restore point is better than no point of restore.  Realize also that as SR fills (based on your settings), the old points will filter out.

Thanks for that Corrine... I did think about it for ages - and then jumped in with both feet!  I just thought that things couldn't get any worse, and I was only going to end up re-formatting my computer like I did last time so it couldn't be hurt if it went wrong, but I was lucky this time. I will be using SR a lot more now (well, creating a lot more restore points - hopefully I won't be using it to restore my computer too often!)

I see what you mean about the registry - if it ain't broke (or I don't notice anything wrong) the don't fix it... but thanks Tarnak for the vote in Reg Mech's favour...
 I have just started using Registry Mechanic after acquiring a special complimentary copy from somewhere, I cant remember problems using it.
... I do think it was all my fault for running it in the wrong way at the wrong time, so I'll leave it for a while before I get rid, just to let things settle down.

As for the FF/IE7, am I ok to keep them both alongside each other and play about with FF for a while and see which I prefer, or are there compatability issues that mean I shouldn't have both on my computer at once?

Cheers for sticking with me, Moose   :thumbsup:

Just in case anyone else has the same problems and has been following this.. I THINK I might have solved it all.

As things stood my IE was really 'buggy', and most of the time wouldn't go to an address if I typed it, but I could sometimes work around that by putting the site in as a search value and accessing it that way. Also this problem meant that it wouldn't load any download pages so I couldn't download firefox as an alternative. Also I had uninstalled my browser (BT yahoo) in an attempt to rectify the problem, but was then unable to re-install from disc because an error message appeared every time I tried to run the disc and this prevented the disc from running. Finally my system restore wouldn't let me resore to any of my previous restore points.

I will tell you what I did, and if anyone reading this notices that I've done anything that will potentially harm anyone else's computer then please feel free to mark it up as such - I just thought that in case anyone else has the same trouble this might help them with it.

I turned off system restore, restarted with it switched off, then turned it back on and created a restore point.  I then uninstalled a small program and ran sys restore to check that it was back working, and it was.  I then created a restore point before (and sometimes after - a bit of overkill in my panic to sort this out) everything I did from here onwards.

I put the disc in again, but instead of running it I opened it and explored the files, and found the one that was to set up IE. I tried to run it, but as it was older that my current version it wouldn't run. I then uninstalled IE7 (the one I had messed up the installation for by using Reg Mech halfway through installation) using control panel > add/remove progs, and restarted the computer. I intended to install from the file I had found on the disc, but although IE had been removed from the list in add/remove progs as above, the shortcut on my desk still worked for IE6. Not sure why/how, but it saved me a bit of grief trying to run the setup from the disc.

Once I could access the internet using IE6, I went to Mozilla as suggested above, and downloaded Firefox - in case I got more trouble with IE. I then used firefox to download IE7, and installed it, and then went to the bt yahoo site and downloaded the browser and other related progs from there, and installed them.  Like I said, I made plenty of use of system restore during all that in case it went wrong again!

Anyway, I have started and re-started my computer with no more bother (touch wood) and have run system restore as well and it seems ok. Hope this is of some use if anyone comes across this thread searching with the same trouble I had.... although it's unlikely that there is anyone else who's daft enought to run a registry editing program mid-way through the installation of a load of programs I suppose!

Just a couple of questions, if anyone has actually bothered to read all this...
1.  What are the advantages/disadvantages of running Firefox as opposed to IE, and if I have them both can I just use whichever one I feel like when I want, or will that cause problems?
2.  Is there anything I can do to sort out the mess that is probably still lurking in my registry after all the things I've done to it?  I suppose I could set a restore point and then run Reg Mech and see what happens, but I wondered if there was any way of avoiding that?

Cheers anyway to all of you,  Moose :Hammys pint:

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