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You don't think most Windows computers are uniquely configured? I assure you, except for corporate computers on some corporate networks, they are.

Two 100% identical Dell computers, for example, that come off the assembly line one after the other, and end up in different homes will become unique within minutes after they are booted up for the very first time. This happens as users configure their network connections and Internet access, set up user profiles, their own security software, installed programs, attached printers and external drives and more. And they become even more unique as time moves on.

I really wish I had the control to stop updates...could really care less about with what is going on today!!
People don't care about keeping current backups either - until they wish they did.

100s of millions of users have no problems with updates. Of course it would be nice if no one ever had problems. But with over 900 million W10 systems out there, and virtually every single one a unique computer, with millions of different hardware combinations in millions of different configurations times millions of different software installation times millions of different software configurations, not to mention millions of different user personalizations and network setups, I think it amazing Microsoft has done so well to keep Windows Updates issues at such tiny numbers.

Having said that, the anti-telemetry program
For the tin-foil hat wearers, 3rd party anti-telemetry programs might have been useful (well, comforting) for them 5 years ago when W10 first came out. But not today. Even though W10 and Microsoft never were the privacy threat many believed (or wanted us to believe) they were, as I noted above, Microsoft heard the message and not only do users have much more control over the information being collected (which is NOT personal or personally identifiable information) but they have provided the "Diagnostic Data Viewer" so we can see what data is being collected.

Again, we have MUCH MORE to worry about with Google, Facebook, our ISPs, and especially our cell phone carriers than we do with Microsoft. Frankly, I am WAY more worried about another Equifax or Yahoo type breach where my true name, Social Security, insurance, credit card, birth date, even passwords are actually being stolen (due to negligence and incompetence >:() than I am worried about Microsoft collecting data on how my Windows and Office programs are running.

I think it is important to note and remember that there are many MANY Microsoft haters, tin-foil hat wearers, naysayers, IT journalists, privacy advocates, security experts and watchdog groups constantly scrutinizing (and reporting - over and over again to a viral extent) everything that Microsoft does. If they really were stealing our sensitive information, it would be reported all over the place ad nauseum. And that is just not happening.

I should have said the old Edge should "not" have given your those problems. Either Corrine intentionally corrected for me, or her mind auto-corrected without her knowledge! ;)

"comes without extensions support" is obviously incorrect as I have extensions added to my Edge.
Gee whiz. I read right over that.

Yeah, that is totally inaccurate. It has extensive extension support. In fact, not only via the Microsoft Store, but Microsoft has even made a point of the fact that Edge now support Chromium extensions.

So yeah, do you have the current version of the "new" Edge (Chromium)? It should be Version 80.0.361.66.

This replaces the old version but because of its size, MS was rolling it out over time.

That said, even the old version should have given you these problems. Frankly, I suspect your problem is with Windows itself and not actually with Edge. That's why I don't think removing Edge is the solution.

I see no reason to uninstall and remove Edge. As for disabling Catalyst, I no longer have an AMD card, but I always found Catalyst to be too intrusive and I just didn't let it run with Windows. I didn't uninstall it though.

The Catalyst Control Center is for an AMD graphics card. It does not need to be running with Windows.

As for removing Edge, not sure I would. It does not say Beta by chance, does it?

When did this problem start? That is, did you just upgrade to W10 3 or 4 days ago and the problem started right after the upgrade? Or has it been working fine with W10 for awhile?

If you're using Pale Moon, I don't understand what that has to do with Edge.
Yeah, I'm confused too. And sadly, several questions were asked so we could get an understanding of this issue. But the only question answered was your default browser. :(

You know how it works, Gordon. You have to help us understand the problem so we can help you resolve it.

Are you saying your Windows desktop theme has been taken over? Or your Edge theme is being changed?

Either way, I with Corrine here. I am not seeing any changes to any of my themes.

Is Edge your default browser?

Here is an example from the February security updates of an active attack
Thanks for that but what I meant by not knowing what "all active implies" is I don't know "everything" being active does imply.

I get that it means it is not currently, at this point in time, under attack. But could that also mean it was under attack in the past, which would imply the vulnerability is known to the bad guys but they just aren't attacking right now - by choice?

Does it mean the vulnerability still exists? Or has it been patched? If not patched, do they expect it to be attacked in the coming days?

By saying "active" attack, it makes me wonder what all "inactive" attack means? Is it like a dormant volcano - as in one that isn't currently active or erupting but the volcanologist say it could tomorrow?

Nitpicking, I suppose. But when it comes to security, details matter. I don't like vagueness when not necessary.

115 is a lot but I find it interesting and reassuring that none are publicly known or under active attack. While I don't know what all "active" implies, the fact none are publicly known suggests to me a pretty aggressive proactive approach by Microsoft to detect and fix bugs before they are discovered out in the wild. I see that as a very good thing.

Security Alerts & Briefings / Re: About Windows Updates
« on: March 08, 2020, 02:17:08 PM »

If the security updates are automatically downloaded at some time, then, why there are so many computers without recent updates?

I don't know what you mean by "so many". If folks leave the defaults alone, their computers will be updated on a timely bases. But sadly, there are many who think they are smarter than Microsoft so they dink with the settings. As noted before, there are ~900 million W10 users out there. If just 1% disable Windows Update, that's 9 million! And yes that's a big number but 99% represents a much bigger number.

Another problem, however may be how some folks shut down their computers. If they use a power strip or switched wall outlet to completely power off their computers, then that surely would delay updates.

It is really best to just let our computers go to sleep, or at least use the Windows Start Menu Shutdown function. This puts the computer in standby where it can update itself in the middle of the night.

Security Alerts & Briefings / Re: About Windows Updates
« on: March 07, 2020, 12:21:00 PM »
By default, they are set to automatically update.

What you are experiencing is the intentional delay imposed by Microsoft which causes these updates to "roll out" over time. And that is certainly the responsible way to do it.

There are ~900 million Windows 10 users out there. Can you imagine the impact on the internet's networks (ISPs, corporations, school, even homes and small offices that have several computers) if these updates, some of which are pretty big, were push out to each of those ~900 million computers all at once? It would certainly bog down (or worse) many.

So Microsoft has wisely chosen to "roll out" the updates over a period of several days, or even longer so the distribution has a minimum impact on network resources everywhere.

Microsoft announces the updates as soon as they are ready for distribution. Corrine is constantly on the lookout for such announcements for us. And then she reports on them before you see them because they have yet to be rolled out to you.

You have the option of waiting, or you can manually hurry up the process by manually checking for updates. If you use the computer regularly everyday, I see no reason not to just wait and let the process happen automatically. If the computer is left off for long periods of time, I typically check manually to make sure it is all caught up.

BTW, if you have several computers in your home, you can help by allowing you your computer to received downloads from other computers on your network. Under Settings > Update & Security > Delivery Optimization > Allow downloads from other PCs, set to On. This is setting also good if you have a slow or unreliable Internet connection, or you have a metered connection. Note this sharing will only occur between your own computers on your own network - a good thing.

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: Win 10 and Word
« on: March 04, 2020, 08:07:42 PM »
I took a night course and was trained in WordPerfect.
Out of curiosity, was it a course to learn WordPerfect? Or was it a course to learn word processing that just happened to use WordPerfect?

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