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I understand Flash is not the problem. I was just commenting on that because it was mentioned earlier.

As seen in the thread here, it turns out it is due to DRM. But the staff did not verify or conclude that until well after plodr expressed her concerns. And even then (as you noted while I was typing this reply) when the mod came in to state it was due to DRM, he did so with a totally unnecessary, if not totally rude attitude. :(

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If some in the US are getting the same error as me, it is as I suspect, Palemoon can't handle every video format and it has nothing to do with a) no flash on any of my computers b) the addons I've installed c) the plugin I have.
I don't see what the user's location in the world has to do with this.

I also am not sure it is fair to single-out Palemoon as being unable to play "every" video format. That is, do we know for a fact that Chrome, FF, Edge, or [fill in the blank] can play "every" video format out there? But clearly, PM cannot play those formats when (at least IMO) it should - or at least give a more descriptive error message.

I also know for certain that I am NOT going to enable Flash just to view that content. I mean if Microsoft has Edge set to "Always block Flash (recommended)" set by default, that should be clear enough warning to keep Flash content blocked.

I just checked out your thread at the PM forums and was disappointed in the "tone" and some of the comments in the replies you got from the staff there. Pretty sad.

As far as refusing to play DRM content, there may be something to that - but as I noted, for me it seems to be choking on the ads that play (or try to play) before the movie. In any case, it seems to me if the admin and/or moderator staff had tried your link before posting to see if they had the same issue, then determined the cause, they could have provided a logical explanation without their tone of intolerance for anyone with less experience.
 and understanding of the inner workings of PM than them. :(

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I get the same error as you, Liz. It works fine in Edge. And in FF, it works, but it plays a couple ads first. So it seems in PM, it is choking on those ads.

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As to installing the security updates, you've spent enough years on the forums to know what happens when people don't keep their device updated.  It is one thing to delay the version upgrade but when there are critical security updates, I personally don't choose to wait.
I don't either. In fact, it is common for me on this, my primary computer, to check for and install any updates on Tuesdays, the day they traditionally are released.

I started doing this right away after migrating to Windows 10 primarily because I wanted to practice what I preached to my family and my clients. That is, "keep your operating systems current. That is a primary defense against the bad guys". I also wanted to install the updates first just in case there were problems - so I would be familiar with them (and how to fix them) should my clients call.

But as it was, problems didn't happen. Updates installed just fine. I didn't get any calls. Yes, over the years, there have been a couple (less than a handful) of hiccups. But worse case was fixed by a simple reboot.

Now I have encountered other computers that had problems after updates but what I discovered was those computers had many default settings that were changed by the user. They used 3rd party security programs, driver update utilities, and/or they dinked with virtual memory (page file) settings, and more. In many cases, those computers were older hardware - upgraded from W7. Hardware that often lacked solid W10 driver support from the HW maker.

Now I cannot and will not say those programs caused the problems, or that you will never have problems if you leave the defaults as Microsoft sets them. But it sure "seems", at least from here, that less problems occur if you just leave Windows alone. Contrary to what many want us to believe, the developers at Microsoft really are some pretty sharp people who know what they are doing. Not sure I can say that about the marketing folks, or some of the executive decisions made in Redmond, but the developers have done and are doing a good job.

[/Soap box]

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You don't think most Windows computers are uniquely configured? I assure you, except for corporate computers on some corporate networks, they are.

Two 100% identical Dell computers, for example, that come off the assembly line one after the other, and end up in different homes will become unique within minutes after they are booted up for the very first time. This happens as users configure their network connections and Internet access, set up user profiles, their own security software, installed programs, attached printers and external drives and more. And they become even more unique as time moves on.

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I really wish I had the control to stop updates...could really care less about with what is going on today!!
People don't care about keeping current backups either - until they wish they did.


100s of millions of users have no problems with updates. Of course it would be nice if no one ever had problems. But with over 900 million W10 systems out there, and virtually every single one a unique computer, with millions of different hardware combinations in millions of different configurations times millions of different software installation times millions of different software configurations, not to mention millions of different user personalizations and network setups, I think it amazing Microsoft has done so well to keep Windows Updates issues at such tiny numbers.

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Having said that, the anti-telemetry program
For the tin-foil hat wearers, 3rd party anti-telemetry programs might have been useful (well, comforting) for them 5 years ago when W10 first came out. But not today. Even though W10 and Microsoft never were the privacy threat many believed (or wanted us to believe) they were, as I noted above, Microsoft heard the message and not only do users have much more control over the information being collected (which is NOT personal or personally identifiable information) but they have provided the "Diagnostic Data Viewer" so we can see what data is being collected.

Again, we have MUCH MORE to worry about with Google, Facebook, our ISPs, and especially our cell phone carriers than we do with Microsoft. Frankly, I am WAY more worried about another Equifax or Yahoo type breach where my true name, Social Security, insurance, credit card, birth date, even passwords are actually being stolen (due to negligence and incompetence >:() than I am worried about Microsoft collecting data on how my Windows and Office programs are running.

I think it is important to note and remember that there are many MANY Microsoft haters, tin-foil hat wearers, naysayers, IT journalists, privacy advocates, security experts and watchdog groups constantly scrutinizing (and reporting - over and over again to a viral extent) everything that Microsoft does. If they really were stealing our sensitive information, it would be reported all over the place ad nauseum. And that is just not happening.

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I should have said the old Edge should "not" have given your those problems. Either Corrine intentionally corrected for me, or her mind auto-corrected without her knowledge! ;)

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"comes without extensions support" is obviously incorrect as I have extensions added to my Edge.
Gee whiz. I read right over that.

Yeah, that is totally inaccurate. It has extensive extension support. In fact, not only via the Microsoft Store, but Microsoft has even made a point of the fact that Edge now support Chromium extensions.

So yeah, do you have the current version of the "new" Edge (Chromium)? It should be Version 80.0.361.66.

This replaces the old version but because of its size, MS was rolling it out over time.

That said, even the old version should have given you these problems. Frankly, I suspect your problem is with Windows itself and not actually with Edge. That's why I don't think removing Edge is the solution.

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I see no reason to uninstall and remove Edge. As for disabling Catalyst, I no longer have an AMD card, but I always found Catalyst to be too intrusive and I just didn't let it run with Windows. I didn't uninstall it though.

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The Catalyst Control Center is for an AMD graphics card. It does not need to be running with Windows.

As for removing Edge, not sure I would. It does not say Beta by chance, does it?

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When did this problem start? That is, did you just upgrade to W10 3 or 4 days ago and the problem started right after the upgrade? Or has it been working fine with W10 for awhile?

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If you're using Pale Moon, I don't understand what that has to do with Edge.
Yeah, I'm confused too. And sadly, several questions were asked so we could get an understanding of this issue. But the only question answered was your default browser. :(

You know how it works, Gordon. You have to help us understand the problem so we can help you resolve it.

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Are you saying your Windows desktop theme has been taken over? Or your Edge theme is being changed?

Either way, I with Corrine here. I am not seeing any changes to any of my themes.

Is Edge your default browser?

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Here is an example from the February security updates of an active attack
Thanks for that but what I meant by not knowing what "all active implies" is I don't know "everything" being active does imply.

I get that it means it is not currently, at this point in time, under attack. But could that also mean it was under attack in the past, which would imply the vulnerability is known to the bad guys but they just aren't attacking right now - by choice?

Does it mean the vulnerability still exists? Or has it been patched? If not patched, do they expect it to be attacked in the coming days?

By saying "active" attack, it makes me wonder what all "inactive" attack means? Is it like a dormant volcano - as in one that isn't currently active or erupting but the volcanologist say it could tomorrow?

Nitpicking, I suppose. But when it comes to security, details matter. I don't like vagueness when not necessary.

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