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1. Sure, upgrade now.
2. As far as MBAM Pro interfering with MSE - not likely to happen. MBAM Pro is one of the few security programs that plays well with other real-time solutions. For the record, I run MSE and MBAM on all my W7 systems and Windows Defender (W8's updated MSE) in W8.1 with MBAM on my W8.1 systems - with no problems.
3. When I first install a new security program, I typically have it run its most comprehensive scan. Then quick scans after that, if there is the option. I think you need to be concerned about this warning, but not necessarily worried. If the malicious site was NOT blocked, then you may need to worry.

That said, if this continues, you need to see what it is you are doing, or where you are going and what program or page is generating this error. Then determine if that page has been hacked, or if this is just a false-positive and you need to configure MBAM to stop yelling at you.

And FOR SURE, make sure you keep Windows and your browser current, and their security features enabled.

You can check out Norton Safeweb or WOT too.

Not my area, and maybe one of the many Java oriented support sites would be a better place to look but I did find this:

I will say, however, that 1.9Gb of RAM "seems" like a very small amount to setup a virtual machine in - but again, this is not my area.

Hmmmm, well I hadn't imagined that my post would ruffle feathers here, and my apologies in advance if that is the case.
It never dawned on me that advice offered by your site could result in any negative repercussions for you, whether those be legal or otherwise.
You need to understand most (all is more likely) of us "helpers" spend a great deal of our time helping "the rightful owners" of computers keep them safe and secure so other users (authorized or not) of said machines do not compromise the computers, or use them for nefarious deeds - such as to distribute malware or spam or participate in DDoS attack.

Neither the site, site owners, or poster can be held legally liable for anything we say in a public forum - but our (personal and site) integrity would certainly be compromised or "tarnished" if we helped non-owners circumvent security, logging and other features put there by the rightful owner.
my official position as Senior Editor, I am also the Senior Administrator of Foreign Affairs.
And that's great but we have no way of verifying you are who you say you are, or if you have the authority to modify these systems. For that reason, we need to tread lightly to ensure posters are not trying to hack into a stolen computer or a pirated copy of Windows.

I do not want anyone but myself controlling what happens on my computers.
I don't blame you and I agree 100%. But that's where my worries come in - you have already told us these are not your computers.

Both of my computers were provided to me by my employer

I very much dislike the idea of my laptops allowing anyone -- employer included -- to covertly snoop  on my activities while on private time. That includes email, net searches, everything.

You need to talk to your employer. These are not your computers, therefore, your Rights to the privacy extremes you want are very limited - unless you have documentation stating you can do whatever you want with these systems.

My advice is for you get your own computer. Then you can have complete control over it.

I want to know everything. How to erase logs, erase usage events, stop my boxes calling home, etc., even so deep of a clean that even when I connect to their network each morning at work, there's no "home use" logs or data archived on the boxes for them to snoop through at their leisure.
Folks go through hours of classroom training for this. To be 100% sure all traces of activity is gone is very difficult at best. If me, I would use my own computer for my own personal use. Short of that, I would take an image of "before John", then restore the image "after John".

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: Windows Vs Linux
« on: March 24, 2014, 12:01:10 PM »
I have not had the compatibilities issues with LibreOffice as mentioned above (except when the Word doc contained off-the-wall fonts). But above said, "complex docx" files too. The files I used did not contain any tables, for example. My son uses LibreOffice for his school papers and has not complained about compatibility so not sure what to say about that.

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: Keeping xp alive
« on: March 23, 2014, 05:28:39 PM »
If I understood Linux users why haven't all XP user gone now to Linux?
Setting aside the natural fact humans generally like the status quo, and don't like adjusting to change (even if obvious things would be better after the change), many users never switched to Linux for the same reason many of us never switched to Vista from XP - XP is a great operating systems that, for most people, still "works". And by "works", I mean it does very well, the "basic" chores required of any operating system and that is, set up and facilitate "communications" between the various major components in a computer system: CPU, chipset, memory, storage, graphics, networking, and of course, user I/O. Note "security" is not in that list. :blink:

It is for modern operating systems.

I note the major reason Windows 8 has done poorly is because MS wanted to force change on us - with an ENTIRELY new UI. Too bad they didn't learn that before and now are backtracking with 8.1 Update 1.

Back to the fact XP does setup communications properly (at least on XP era hardware), and because MS is (for a few more days anyway) providing security updates, many people feel the hassles learning a new OS is not necessary - especially if their favorite software (game?) may not work.

Plus many people don't like to dink with something that is working, for fear they will break it.   

Sadly, learning a different OS (Linux) or an updated Windows OS has now become necessary because of security - which fortunately is now a major core component of modern operating systems.
Would a person want to get rid of the windows on the XP
or just keep it for a backup situation?
I agree with Mike - a dual boot setup would be good while learning. While it takes little time to install an OS, it can take weeks to tweak and install the OS and all the programs we want. Why call it a PC if you can't make it "personal".


Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: Keeping xp alive
« on: March 23, 2014, 02:48:53 PM »
I don't have a computer to do this with, but even if I did, I wouldn't have the foggiest clue how to go about it
Sure you do! If you open up file sharing on this repurposed system, your networked computers can then view, create, modify and save files on this old machine - and you have created a "basic" backup server you can access via Windows Explorer. I simply drag and drop a copy of my entire Documents folder to the shared drive for an instant backup of all my data. Simple and quick - and no special NAS software to install.

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: Windows Vs Linux
« on: March 23, 2014, 01:44:33 PM »
If I may add my two cents - much depends on what you want to do with your computer as to whether Linux would be right for you or not. If you are a gamer, Linux is not for you. If you are a writer, use email, do on-line banking or shopping, or simply want to surf the Internet, Linux will do that just fine (and yes, LibreOffice would be an option too).

5. If someone is an advanved computer user, he/she can use Linux without any limitations?
I don't know what you mean by "limitations".

And while it is true, Linux alternatives are often used by "advanced computer users", any one can use Linux. The issue is simply familiarity - what you are used to. I am so used to W7 and W8 now, when I sit in front of an XP system, it looks foreign to me. I know several highly advanced computer users who use nothing but Linux and they are lost when sitting in front of a Windows machine - just as I get lost sitting in front of a Mac.

There is a big learning curve with Linux - IF your experience is just with Windows because the UIs are so different. It would be like putting a MS Word user in front of WordPerfect. He will struggle just to start a new document.

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: Keeping xp alive
« on: March 22, 2014, 07:03:10 PM »
:( I am not here to argue. I am just debating facts. And they are, any (1) "rush" is self-imposed due to lack of any action - not advanced notice. And most importantly (2) Linux works on just about any XP hardware, is secure, and is "free". So "can't afford a new machine" is immaterial.

I am all for being practical - that's exactly why I am all for re-purposing legacy hardware and why I re-purposed my XP machine, at no cost, as an external drive/NAS/backup server. No wasting money buying a new one. I recommend others do the same.

You stated my post was "all overkill". If not willing to defend your comments, it might be best not to make them.

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: Keeping xp alive
« on: March 22, 2014, 06:15:00 PM »
Quote from: MikeW
Each to their own view, of course  But I think that is all overkill.
??? You believe what is overkill? It is not my "view" several anti-malware makers announced their XP support will end sometime after April 8 - they did announce it - and they cited the reason I gave, that their products depend on a fully updated and patched OS. Sure, their support will not end on April 8th, just like XP will not stop working on April 8th. But it will end when they cannot protect an unpatched XP vulnerability. And none of us know how soon or how far away that may be. You cannot say it will be a long time anymore than I can say it will be April 9. And certainly, Norton, McAfee, Avira and the others will not know either, not until that "zero-day" comes. Then what? Another last minute scramble due to poor planning?

And it is not my "view" badguys are hording a cache of newly developed malware to exploit already discovered but unreported XP vulnerabilities - ready to unleash on XP users after April 8. That too is a fact widely published including by ComputerWorld and Lumension, "Anyone still on the OS can expect an onslaught of malware after April 8th, 2014."

What is important is to give best practical advice
Which I, Susan, and Norton did. That is stop using XP or at least isolate it from Internet access. Why? If for no other reason than to keep you from becoming a threat to others!
especially as many will not be in any financial situation to rush out and buy new machines.

Best to keep the advice realistic for the benefit of folk in that situation. all of course IMHO

Rush??? :( Come on, Mike! It was widely announced over 5 years ago April 8, 2014 was coming! 5 years!!! And it has been announced and re-announced countless times since.

many will not be in any financial situation to rush out and buy new machines
With 5 years notice, it's a rush? No! While I truly sympathize for the less fortunate, the time for sympathy is over. XP systems are (or soon will be) a threat to others and it is time, once again, to be responsible netizens. "Poor planning on YOUR part does NOT constitute an emergency on mine."

As for costs, 5 years is plenty of time for even the tightest of budgets to prepare. I note a brand new Windows 8 Notebook can be had for $300, or a refurbished PC with W7 or W8 for well less than $200!

And to that, financial situations are lame excuses when there are several capable and "FREE" Linux alternatives they can use instead of XP that are perfectly suitable for creating Word docs, doing on-line banking, and other "necessary" tasks. Playing games, listening to music are not necessary tasks.

XP - UNDENIABLY great in its day - but is it time to stop coddling its users; XP should be allowed to die with grace and dignity. Do not wait until it is too late and all your data is lost or held hostage, or worse, your machine is compromised, used against the rest of us as a spamming machine, to distributing malware, or as a zombie in a DDoS attack.

Realistic practical advice??? Absolutely! I agree. If still using XP on April 8, 2014,
  • Disconnect from the Internet, or stop using Internet connected XP systems after April 8th,
  • Upgrade to a modern, more secure Windows operating system,
  • If your legacy hardware does not support a modern version of Windows, remove XP and install Linux,
  • Buy a new computer with a modern operating system.
Just don't keep using XP with an Internet connected computer and assume you are safe, or that you are not a threat to others. That is not doing yourself, your family or the other users of your computer (or your network) any favors.

I don't care how sharp or learned a security expert a XP user may be. You are only as good as your tools, regardless your discipline.

And for what it's worth, potentially exposing other Internet users to potentially compromised systems may be considered poor Internet user etiquette. I know that is not a concern for many, but I think as help providers, "consideration of other Internet users" is something we need to stress - especially as it applies to security.

LibreOffice was created by a faction OpenOffice developers who split out to make their own version, which many, including me, like better than OpenOffice.

I recommend giving both a try, then deciding which is better for you.

Ah, it depends on the version you buy but yes, there is a version that has annual renewal fees. If you don't want that, you can buy a full license. Deep discounts are offered to students/faculty and military.

Or, you can download and install one of the many fully capable and FREE! office alternatives.

Exactly one year after I downloaded Microsoft Office (yesterday)
From where? An official Microsoft download site? So you have no installation disk?

Without additional information, if you did not pay for an "official" Microsoft license and did not download an official copy of Office, I would be very concerned you may now be infected - especially if the phone number you contacted for help came from that software. :(

What version of Office? What version of Windows? I note the fixes I find for this error show to totally uninstall office, then install it again.

If you feel you may be infected, I would urge you to have one of Landzdown's certified Malware Removal experts have a look - and it won't cost you a penny. Please follow the instructions posted here.

You mentioned repairing, but did not say if you tried it or not. So, did you try the repair option in Programs and Features?

Computer Problems, Questions and Solutions! / Re: Keeping xp alive
« on: March 20, 2014, 12:52:00 PM »
I see no reason to be worried in continuing to use it provided you have a good antivirus and Mbam Pro Installed.
The problem there is several of the major anti-malware makers have already announced they will end support when, or shortly after Microsoft does. This is because their products rely on a fully patched and updated operating system.

The best advice I can give is the same as given by Susan, and Norton. That is, when Microsoft ends support, stop using it! Or at the very least, block Internet access (as Susan explains, and/or via router settings) so that machine does not become a threat to the rest of us.

I have re-purposed my youngest XP system as a NAS and use it as a backup server that is blocked via my router from Internet access. I recommend everyone do the same.

@DR M - Did you get this error the very first time you tried to install MBAM Pro? Or did it appear nothing happened and you tried it again?

If you had the free version already installed, it includes all the Pro's the extra features, they just are not are not activated - until you enter the ID and Key. Is there a Malwarebytes Icon (possibly hidden) Icon in your system tray?

Other than that all I can suggest until tech support returns is double check you have both numbers correct, that you did not switch them about. And if me, I would totally uninstall MBAM, reboot, and try again. 


As for lifetime licenses, I've purchased lifetime licenses in the past in support of the "freeware" concept that ended up not really being "lifetime" licenses. WinZip comes to mind  :angry:. There have been others but I purchased MBAM Pro licenses for my kids', grandkids' and my primary personal systems when migrating to W7 because [besides being a great product] the Pro license was promoted as a "Lifetime" license. Not a 1.x license.

So if Malwarebytes honors our existing licenses for "our" lifetimes, then kudos for that. But I really oppose them moving to recurring fees for revenue.

For years "working the forums" MBAM Pro was the exception and is the only "paid" security product I regularly promoted (beside MailWasher Pro). And that was much in part (besides being good) because the lifetime license was promoted "with no recurring fees." I still advise against Norton and McAfee (which are good products too) because of their recurring fees!

I can deal with a one-time cost for a good security product. But it already cost too much every month just to have access to the Internet (my Cox bill just went up again!). Many are on a very tight budget - already blown on the new computer.

Plus, MBAM is really a "supplemental" security program. It is touted as a program to work with your existing antimalware program. But if we have a decent anti-malware program, keep it and Windows updated, are not click happy or careless, do we really need another real-time scanner? I never ran Vista. I ran XP for years with one real-time and MBAM Free with no infections.

If someone is already paying recurring fees for Norton, McAfee or the Pro version of a free anti-malware product, I don't feel comfortable recommending to my clients they buy another security program and entail more recurring fees - especially if they otherwise "practice safe computing".

Where are the studies that say to be safe, we need a second real-time anti-malware scanner? Where does it say Avira, Avast, Norton, McAfee or even MSE/WD need MBAM Pro? As far as I know, only Microsoft has said their products should be part of your anti-malware solution, not your entire solution. And for sure, MSE and MBAM or WD and MBAM Pro make a formidable defense. But MSE/WD and MBAM Free works well too.

So this is going to change my way of thinking about the advice I give for folks wanting to set up an easy-to-maintain security. :( And that hurts because I know several of the founding members of the MBAM group from my SRT days at Computer/CastleCops, and whom I consider friends and wish to support. But I don't promote, and personally avoid buying products with recurring fees. :sad:

I've seen promos at Newegg for MBAM Pro for $15 or less. Sometimes boxed in a retail packages, sometimes like the OEM version above, and sometimes as a download. Doesn't matter - all the same program. I have a "price alert" set at several places and will post here if I get any notices. Hopefully there will be a big push and sale before 2.0 comes out.

Otherwise, $100 + change will get you 5 real "lifetime" licenses through Newegg today. Or one for $26.88.

I recommend every MBAM Pro owner now check to make sure you have your IDs and Keys stored safely - assuming you plan on living a long time! ;)

Sorry for the long post - but out of breath now and tired of ranting. Plus the dog knows and keeps nagging that it is 30 minutes past his walk time. ;)

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