Microsoft getting pushy with Windows 10

JDBush61 · August 10, 2015, 12:18:30 AM

My apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, and in fact, it's not that important. Just thought I'd mention that starting this morning, along with the ever-present white Windows 10 "taskbar" icon stating "Get Windows 10" and the Windows Update reminder, now a pop-up appears when I fire-up my box (capture image attached).

I have yet to reserve my copy, but found it interesting that MS is getting this pushy. Personally, still waiting for the dust to settle before I seriously contemplate upgrading from Windows 7 to 10.

Again, not so important. Just sharing. :wink:

Corrine · August 10, 2015, 12:44:55 PM

The complaint echoing throughout the forums on and after July 29 was that they hadn't received the go-ahead to update to Windows 10. For some it was because they hadn't installed all the updates. For others it was because they didn't know what to do. The main problem was (and still is) that the upgrade is so significant, it cannot be provided to everyone at one time. Consider that an anticipated billion computers are being upgraded to Windows 10. You're merely receiving a reminder that you can "reserve" your copy and upgrade.

plodr · August 10, 2015, 03:57:24 PM

I see none of that on four Windows 7 computers running because I chose not to install certain updates. I'd have to be living in a cave to be unaware that Windows 10 came out on July 29th! :cool: I figure when I'm ready, I can always install the "nag" update, reserve a copy and download and upgrade one or two of the computers.

Corrine · August 10, 2015, 05:06:04 PM

I also chose not to install the updates that would spark the upgrade on one computer running Windows 7 Ultimate. I made the intentional decision because it will be easier to continue helping people with Windows 7. Sure, I could use a VM, but I have Windows 10 on another computer so I'll either hold off until later in the year or when I get a new machine.

Digerati · August 10, 2015, 06:29:04 PM

I have noticed on many MS sites (like answers) I get a big huge, page wide and 3 inches "Announcement" banner saying, Where's my upgrade? It's coming! and it goes on to say with my reservation I am in the queue yadda yadda.

Irritating when I am already in W10 and I sure don't want my system downloading and installing it again. If the Announcement was minimized, I could maybe live with it, but is always open when I hit the page - like this one.

Corrine · August 10, 2015, 07:30:07 PM

Yes, the pinned Announcement is seen by everyone regardless of OS. It was a result of the outcry on July 30 of people clamoring for their upgrade.

pastywhitegurl · August 10, 2015, 09:15:49 PM

I can certainly see why they want to space it out. It took several hours for Windows to download the preparation files "in the background" to my Windows 7 Pro machine. The actual update process took nearly an hour when it finally started.

This is apparently a massive deal.

Corrine · August 10, 2015, 10:09:55 PM

Massive is putting it mildly. As I posted in Impatient? Not Getting Windows 10 Upgrade Yet?, Microsoft reserved 40 Tbps with all of the key content delivery networks (CDN) worldwide. That is 40 terebits per second but with ~one billion machines, there is no alternative but to do a roll out in phases.

plodr · August 11, 2015, 01:22:55 AM

Quote40 terebits per second

My mind is incapable of grasping how many 0's and 1's passing through the wires per second!

Digerati · August 11, 2015, 04:53:20 PM

I am actually disappointed at how long it takes. With the months of W10 updates we downloaded and installed prior to the 29th in preparation of the actual upgrade, I did not expect there to be so much left to download. I expected the vast majority of code to already be downloaded and all that would be left is the actual install and configuration. It makes me wonder what all those W10 updates prior to the 29th were all about.

Corrine · August 11, 2015, 06:52:46 PM

The updates that were downloaded prior to the upgrade didn't contain the "bits and bytes" specific to Windows 10. They were updates to position your computer to be upgraded. Take a close look at one of the Cumulative Updates for Windows 10. They contain a HUGE set of files for 86x and 64x and the large number with a 10.0.10240.xxxxx.

Digerati · August 11, 2015, 07:41:03 PM

QuoteThe updates that were downloaded prior to the upgrade didn't contain the "bits and bytes" specific to Windows 10. They were updates to position your computer to be upgraded.

Yeah. I guess I am not sure what that positioning does - it was not something I saw happening when using a Windows Upgrade disk with previous versions.

My impression - obviously false - was that the updates were replacing common files, and in some cases, doing some "forward locating" (positioning?) of W10 files to make the upgrade go faster by requiring fewer downloads - thus less demand on MS servers.

I cannot really complain because my upgrade went well - all my programs work (though a couple took reinstalling) and none of my data was lost. And I do like W10 so far, though I am using Start10 instead of MS's start menu, which I still think is highly flawed conceptually, pretty much in total agreement with the How-To Geek.