Where's my TEMP file???

[babyoh]

i have crashes in Opera, and the app INSPECTOR is writing logs to my TEMP file.
*i'm supposed to be able to find it by typing this at command prompt:
echo %temp%
   THAT PULLS UP THIS: **
\DOCUME~1\Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp
...but HOW DO I FIND THE THING...?
if i input that at the command prompt, it says CAN'T LOCATE, and when i SEARCH my drive for "Temp" the closest thing I get -- C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp doesn't seem to have that log in there.
:help:
(i just had a crash, and would like to get that info, if anybody knows how)

[Brynn]

Hi babyoh,
I don't know if you still need this info (a few days after you posted), but I might actually know the answer  :blink:   :lol:

The TEMP files are NOT the same thing as Temporary Internet Files, often referred to as Temp files.  I read that somewhere, quite some time ago.  But give me a day or 2, and I'll either remember the details, or the place where I read it.  Sorry I don't have a quick answer  :tease:

PS -- I don't know a thing about Opera.
.....now, where did I learn about the TEMP file.....think, think....

[babyoh]

hi brynn  :shock:
* since i've gotten NEW crashes in OPERA, i've searched for "TEMP" every place that it ocurrs on my drive (there are a BUNCH of TEMP and TEMPORARY files and folders).
* i was able to narrow down the list -- by DATE -- since a new logfile should have been generated when OPERA crashed.
* i have a TEMP FILE (ending with extension .tmp), with the correct date and time - but it doesn't open when i click it, and i don't know if it's safe to re-name it with the .log or .txt extension. (DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF TEMP FILES ARE SAFE TO MESS WITH THAT WAY???)
    :(  at ANY rate, OPERA support hasn't answered my last few emails... and TODAY i have a few new bugs, somewhat serious ones, in their browser.
SOOOO... i'll just email them again, i guess. (maybe they're overwhelmed with other users having the same problems)
***
if anyone has any knowledge of temp files and folders, i'd appreciate hearing from you

* i ASSUME \DOCUME~1\Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp is a shorthand way of writing C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp, since i can't get any further info on this...

* i googled, but can't get any more on the INSPECTOR app. from what i read so far, it's SUPPOSED to be writing a log to that TEMP folder...

* if OPERA requests that logfile, then won't do anything with it once i send it, and i keep having more problems, i'll just have to stop using OPERA.
:confused:

[Brynn]

Well, I guess there's no need for me to mention all the places I found a Temp file, then.

I really know very little about any of this.  But I can say that I've seen that "shorthand" before.  The only places I've seen it are when a program crashes.  And you know how you get the choice to send Microsoft a report about the crash?  (This is with IE.)  So if you click that message box where you can look at the technical details of the report that will be sent to MS, if you should choose to send a report, the file or files that are named are always written that way, with the ~s, exactly like the example you gave.  That's about all I know.  Oh, well I have actually tried to look for those files, just out of curiosity, but I have never found files with the ~s, in that "shorthand".  I've even run searches for the exact filename, but they were never found.

Since I've never had more need than a simple curiosity (or complicated curiosity, LOL!), I've never pursued it beyond that.  For me, there is still way, way, way, far more that I don't know, about my own computer, than what I do know.  So unless it's something I really, really need, I give up on mysteries pretty easily!

Hang in there!  I'm sure there are answers out there, for you.  It's just a matter of knowing where to look, to find them.  Good luck!

[babyoh]

thanks, brynn...
:exorcize:
just recently, OPERA started behaving as if it had an infection - strange error messages happening without me hitting any keys, and every time i hit the letter "P", it opened the PREFERENCES file. (ALT-P is the key shortcut for opening opera Preferences.)
... i messed around a little, re-booted, etc. -- and OPERA's been PERFECT for the last 10 hours.
* according to google posts, some browsers handle syntax errors worse than others, and CRASH. alot of online posts of MySpace crashing browsers, because of so many code errors, etc.
- i'll run all my diagnostic apps to check for infections, and keep an eye on OPERA (which NEVER CRASHED BEFORE THEIR LAST UPDATE, by the way).
:tease:
... worst case scenario, i'll uninstall / delete it, and download another copy. maybe this one got corrupted somehow.
Sure would be nice if i could get at those INSPECTOR logs though -- supposedly, they document exactly why the crashes are occuring...

[Eric the Red]

babyoh,

To find the location where Windows has placed your Temp folder you need to look in your environment variables:

• Log on as an administrator.
• Right-click the My Computer icon on the desktop, and then click Properties.
• Click the Advanced tab, and then click the Environment Variables button.
• In the System variables section, look for the variable that has the name TEMP

Once you find the TEMP variable you will see the path to the Temp folder.

:)

[Brynn]

AAahhh!
I was just about to suggest that there are hidden files which only real experts know how to reveal, and that maybe this file for which babyoh searches, is one of them. 

I followed Eric the Red's instructions too, because I'm easily fascinated by mysteries I halfway understand.  But the file revealed when I looked where Eric said, is the exact same file babyoh mentioned before.  But apparently these crash files are not there.

Babyoh, does Eric the Red's info help you?

[Eric the Red]

The following Opera KB page may be assistance as well:

Reporting crashes using Inspector IIXII

The log, filename crash[date/time].log, can be found in your system's temp directory or the Inspector IIXII program directory, depending on what you choose on install.

Have you tried searching for *.log files?

[babyoh]

eric the red,
WHY DIDN'T I THINK TO SEARCH *.log files?
* Opera says the "INSPECTOR IIXII program directory" may have the logs - i have INSPECTOR in a folder on the desktop, -- which is OK per their setup instructions -- and the log file ISN'T in that folder... could "program directory" mean somewhere else...?)
at any rate, i SEARCHED *.log and got a million hits.
* HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TELL WHICH MAY BE INSPECTOR LOGS?
NONE correspond with the correct dates and times of my OPERA crashes.
INSPECTOR starts with an "I" - my only logs that begin with "I" are iisa6.log and imsins.log, but both were created 5.11.06, and i think i installed inspector AFTER that. i definitely had OPERA crashes on the 19 and 20th, i'm pretty sure these were the FIRST CRASHES i had after installing inspector.
* no logfiles from the 19th, one on the 20th - semgr.log - says something about COULD NOT CREATE WRAPPER.
:Win73:   **if you or anyone knows...**
1) are these DEFINITELY files that end with a .LOG extension? (they are referred to as LOGFILES, so i assume they don't end with .tmp, .txt etc.)
2) is there any logic to the file naming scheme (ex: inspector.log), or... no way to tell?
3) what should i do NOW?
:tease:

[Eric the Red]

babyoh,

When you installed Inspector IIXII did you instruct it to produce log files of crashes:

To enable crash logging with Inspector IIXII, simply run the program and confirm that you want it to log program crashes.

The logfile name is fomatted from a date/time string with the file extension of ".log" and I believe that it will start with the name of the program that crashed:

The log, filename crash[date/time].log .....

also

Inspector IIXII will give you the full path to the crash log when it reports that a program crashes, so please take note of this path.

but is you didn't tell it to log crashes there will be no log.

[babyoh]

what i downloaded INSPECTOR, i got this on my drive (now in a folder named INSPECTOR):
inspectr.exe 6KB Application
if i DOUBLE-CLICK the icon, (or RIGHT-CLICK and choose RUN), i get this:
do you want to de-activate this program and restore your previous debug settings?
i may not understand this program, but I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO DE-ACTIVATE IT...
** :blink: **
for the first time, i just RIGHT-CLICKED, and chose RUN AS...
then, i chose CURRENT USER - owner (protect my computer from unauthorized activity is checked)
- then i get Error while accessing registry!
The currently logged in user may not have permission to modify the appropriate keys in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\AeDebug
** do i have to be logged on as administrator...?
CONFUSING - since it's asking me if i want to DE-activate it, it means it's already ACTIVE, right????
i ALSO get a warning message with the RUN AS, CURRENT USER option - it says this is the best choice, as others (presumably ADMINISTRATOR) can lead to virus infections...

  - SHEEESH. i need a drink... :hammy:

[babyoh]

 :blink: I NEED A SEDATIVE
:hammy:
i just got an email from OPERA, very nice, and aplogising for how long it took to write etc.
but, the email said, The logfile "is where you outlined in your last email" -- and i'd mentioned TWO POSSIBILITIES...
so it's EITHER supposed to be in:
C:\Documents and Setting\Owner\Local Settings
or
C:\WINDOWS\Temp
* the email said the file will be named this way:
"It is called the date and the time the crash happened"
...as far as i can tell, there's NOTHING like that in either directory -- so INSPECTOR must not be creating logs.
:sinking: