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Offline babyoh

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Re: finally giving up Norton
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2006, 04:16:20 PM »
spiritwind,
i just changed that setting in Internet EXPLORER -- and it STILL shows me the iframe ads. (i re-started ie, which had no effect. maybe i need to reboot)

the ads appear to be generated thru this external javascript file.
http://us.geocities.com/js_source/div03.js
NOTE THAT the actual word "iframe" is mentioned in the javascript.

does no one else see the iframe ads in IE, on those geocities links?
:: gulp ::




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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2006, 03:41:57 PM »
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Re: finally giving up Norton
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2006, 01:38:18 AM »
i made those changes  -- and i STILL see ads in a frame, in INTERNET EXPLORER (on the RIGHT SIDE), on this URL:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7116/

 :sos:

...nobody else with IE sees 'em but ME??

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Re: finally giving up Norton
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2006, 08:03:43 AM »
Hi babyoh,
Um, I think when you mention ads in an Iframe, and sponsored ads, are the same thing I've been referring to as text ads.  And no Norton never blocked those for me.  However, I visited both sites you referenced in this thread and do NOT see any ads.  I have a new ad blocker now, via Kerio firewall, paid version (although technically I'm still in the trial period).  I haven't been around the internet much yet; it really is BRAND new.  But so far, I'm thrilled with it, and if anything, it's even better than the Norton one was.  Although seriously, disclaimer -- it's only been about a week since installing it, which is not a very long time upon which to base any recommendation.  But getting back to the text ads/sponsored ads, I do have Iframes disabled in all my ie Web Content Zones.  I haven't checked all the settings that SpiritWind mentioned, but I could do so, if it would help you sort things out.  Just let me know :D
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Re: finally giving up Norton
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2006, 08:49:00 AM »
BRYNN,
you're using INTERNET EXPLORER -- and you don't see a FRAME of sponsored ADS, on the far right side of the GEOCITIES pages???
* THIS is a text-based advert written as a regular HTML LINK:
BUY OUR CRUMMY PRODUCTS
(and, maybe there's text underneath.)
i just made up the domain "somecrummyad.com" to post the link -- and when i add it to FF ADBLOCK etc., the link still appears.
* "frames" or "i-frames" are different.
you literally see content separated from the regular stuff with a FRAME. (there's a vertical BOX "frame" on the right of the geocities pages, that i've NEVER been able to get rid of, in Int Explorer. i have Iframes disabled my ie Web Content Zones also.)
* the GEOCITIES frames are generated with javascript -- OPERA doesn't see them AT ALL, FIREFOX won't see them, if i block javascript -- BUT, NOTHING i do in IE, stops 'em from showing.
 - i wonder if your Kerio firewall is blocking them.
if you disabled that kerio ad-blocker, and STILL didn't see the geocities frames. well, i'd be VERY interested in your settings.
(CONFUSING: blocking i-frames in Zones should stop me from seeing them. i have no idea why it doesn't work.)
* anyway, i scoured the source code, and this seems to be the link for the GEOCITIES ads:
http://themis.geocities.yahoo.com/themis/h.php
DO YOU SEE ADS WHEN YOU CLICK THE LINK...?
i don't in FF, but i do in IE.
...strange.
i must have Ghost Zombies in my computer, only explanation.
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Re: finally giving up Norton
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2006, 06:12:38 AM »
Hi again babyoh,
Let's see if I can get a screen shot in here...this is what I see when I click that link.  The rest of the page is blank.  Oops, can't seem to paste it in, so it's attached.

Try disabling javascript.  I have javascript disabled in my Internet Zone, which I typically surf the internet with.  Well, actually, the setting is 'Active Scripting', near the bottom of the list of settings.  And it should be set to Disable.  However, it's been my experience that virtually every website on the internet uses javascript (for things other than the I-frame/sponsored ads).  So if it's a site I expect to visit repeatedly (and I trust it), I put it in my Trusted Zone, where I have 'Active Scripting' set to Enable.  Note that I'm still somewhat confused about java vs javascript.  There's another setting called 'Java Permissions' about halfway down the list of settings.  I have that disabled in my Internet Zone, and set to Low Safety in my Trusted Zone.  I've never figured out which, 'Active Scripting' or 'Java Permissions' (or both) affects the ability to display or not display javascripted content.  So I'm sorry I can't answer with more certainty, but hopefully this info will help you.

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Re: finally giving up Norton
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2006, 10:02:51 AM »
 ** BINGO **
 :thumbsup:
THANKS, brynn.  :flowers:
 -- geocites must use javascript in a way that bypasses the i-frames setting in IE.
(javascript is a full-out language, so they may use it to DRAW a "BOX" that isn't recognized by ad-blockers as a "frame.")

i was able to make those geocities ads DISAPPEAR (for the VERY 1st time), by going into - net options -
security - custom - and turning ACTIVE SCRIPTING OFF.
(now i have it set to PROMPT.)

(kind of a hassle having to "OK" Active-X, Javascript, etc. all the time -- but, i've had some serious malware infections. better safe than sorry.)

if you're interested:
"active scripting" - Active scripts are programs written in Javascript, or sometimes Microsoft's VBScript and ActiveX.

(which explains why there's a JAVA permissions - java is controlled separately)

according to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript
"There is no real relationship between Java and JavaScript; their similarities are mostly in basic syntax because both are ultimately derived from C."

anyway - thank you, thank you. MYSTERY SOLVED!
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Re: finally giving up Norton
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2006, 12:35:06 PM »
Cool!
But be forwarned, you will literally be clearing that prompt on every page of every website you visit ;)
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