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COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« on: April 07, 2020, 01:29:07 PM »
I big thing going on in the world today is, alas, the Coronavirus, COVID-19, which is affecting everybody, whether we admit it or not.



I am doing my due diligence--mask, gloves, distancing, staying at home as much as possible, etc. It is my understanding that Washington officials--White House, government folk, etc.--knew that this disease was and could be a problem as early as last November. I guess since it apparently started in China , it would be contained there. Well, that didn't happen. It spread and now, as of today, the 7th of April, there are over 11,000 dead in the US, with over     infected, those on record.

The world wide count is even more daunting and growing, each day.

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This dashboard from the World  Health Organization, along with information from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, has much of the necessary information for those that are interested which imagine is just about everyone.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html


I wish everyone here at Landzdown and everywhere else life, health and strength through these perilous times. With no official vaccines available yet and only possible medicines that might work, not yet confirmed and tested thoroughly, this pandemic could be, and most likely,  a long and painful ride.

Contrary to some, this is not the end of the world. The solutions will be found and life will be back to "normal." until the next crisis comes along.

I am doing alright, so far.  ;)

How are you doing? :-\

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2020, 07:11:24 PM »
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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2020, 05:20:42 AM »
Working from home
Keeping my distance
Not going out much

All is going as usual really. :)

Not playing it down though. It has taken our country over a month of lockdown to flatten the curve. And there are still dimwits out there that can't follow rules and infect others while they are at it.

What we don't need are leaders that belong to that group of people.
"I will go on shaking hands"
"I don't see myself weariung a mask"

We do need leaders that lead by example and explain why we do what we need to do and worry about the economy and elections later when it's all over.
Hopefully that will be soon.

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2020, 06:31:32 AM »
I wish one and all out there all the best! I'm doing okay and safe. I'm still going for a long walk but not to crowded places. Keeping my distance in the stores and so on. There is not many people on the streets here in Denmark, so if you don't know what the word 'silence' means, then just come over here.

My advice:
Be a part of the solution and not part of the problem. Stay safe, keep things in perspective, and help others when you can. Panic never solved anything.

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2020, 03:52:30 PM »
However this goes, it is important that we continue our vigilance and try to find some pleasure in our daily lives. Inconveniences are everywhere.

I'm not necessarily a praying religious person but some spiritual guidance might help. Take care of tasks that have been ignored. And use the internet. After all, we are One under the Internet sun. Scientists, researchers and many others are working like heck for a vaccine that will end this nightmare, worldwide. ;)





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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2020, 05:25:51 PM »
Things are difficult.
Especially when you have persons in the family who belong in the high risk groups. It’s a risk to be sick.
We have lock down since 24th of March.
We hope and pray for better days, having in mind that we are all part of the solution.

The Catholic Easter is on Sunday, so I wish everyone celebrating it Happy Easter, even in this difficult situation.

Take care, stay safe!

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2020, 03:32:44 AM »
We're doing ok here in the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex.

Part of what I've been up to lately includes teaching others about personal disaster preparedness, and how to help with incidents such as missing person searches. We've had a shelter-in-place plan for a while, so we're playing off that. It's been interesting to see how shelter-in-place is being used to mean stay home except for essential trips like groceries. In a true shelter-in-place order, you'd never leave until the order is lifted. I think stay-at-home is a better way to refer what many of us are doing.

We stayed home earlier, early March, rather than wait for the county judge order later in March. I'm also in the high risk bucket given past asthma during childhood (it doesn't bother me now, but I've been told to enjoy it while it lasts). I go out maybe once a week for groceriea, which given I do the cooking, I can see what's in the store and plan meals. We have plenty of soap, laundry detergent, and yes toilet paper, and there's a decent amount of things on hand in the freezer and pantry for a bit if we can't head out for some reason.

I do miss going outside and socializing, but I check in with family and friends frequently by phone or some flavor of messaging/video app. And I've spun up the Folding@Home setup to work on some COVID-19 protein folding. Between volunteering and much more recent job searching (I learned and gained a lot through volunteering, but I'd like to  jump back in to the workforce now), I'm keeping busy, even while at home all the time now.

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2020, 01:37:30 PM »
Well, it looks like the economy takes another hit in the USA with another 6.6 million people aded to the unemployment rolls (now this is the official numbers, not counting those who stopped looking, ineligible for unemployment for a while, etc.), so the estimated count of unemployed in actuality could be  20 to 30 million.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/business/stock-market-today-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

If this isn't a recession heading into a depression, I cannot say, at bottom, what one is. :( >:( :o :'(

I, along with others, predicted a recession, in spite of rosy forecasts of Wall Street from the corporate media but this pandemic has pushed everything over.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/business/coronavirus-economy-trump.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/09/66-million-americans-filed-unemployed-last-week-bringing-pandemic-total-over-17-million/?tid=mr_business_1&itid=mr_business_1

I want to be positive but I must be in reality, and I don't know if Tiger King will solve America's doldrums and anxiety. :-[ ::)

https://www.silive.com/news/2020/03/si-coronavirus-diary-tiger-king-cant-save-me-from-mounting-fear-isolation-opinion.html

Does this Tiger King or anything else answer all your COVID-19 fears and uncertainties--or is just something to keep up busy while we're indoors trying not to get bored and angrier and more anxious.

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2020, 07:41:31 PM »
The Catholic Easter is on Sunday, so I wish everyone celebrating it Happy Easter, even in this difficult situation.

It is also Passover, which began April 8th and ends at nightfall on April 16.  Following that is Orthodox Easter on April 19. 

With NYS currently being referred to as the "epicenter" in the U.S., I am glad I live far away from the areas that are highly infected.  The portion of the county that I live in has 6-15 confirmed.  Fortunately, I have no need to leave the area in the event I do need to go to the store and make sure to get enough food to last for a few weeks.  (Yes, my freezer is currently stocked.)

What I find interesting is the way restaurants in the area quickly adjusted to curbside pickup. 


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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2020, 11:50:32 PM »
This has been especially hard as I cannot see my family, grandkids like I used to before all this happened. My Sons are considered Essential workers. But there will not be a family Easter dinner this year. Hard to believe this is going on in our world. My heart goes out to the ones who have lost loved ones.

Going to the store for food and medication for a loved one who is very sick does not bother me much. As people are wearing masks and gloves at the store. I am not...just doing the 6 ft rule.

I do live in the country and there is an estimated #15 COVID-19, around this county and 1 death. So it is not bad here in Arcade, New York.

I spend as much time as I can out in my yard working on my gardens and the lawn. Gives me a break from being inside everyday. Oh I am reading more then I ever have. All is good and I am grateful everyday for what I have. :)

Hoping everyone stays safe and strong during all of this.

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2020, 07:24:20 AM »
We are a small island, approximately 1 million inhabitants and around 9000 km2. Until yesterday, we had more than 560 confirmed cases and 15 deaths. 13 people are in the ICUs and their condition is critical. The major problem is that many doctors and nurses got infected. It has been said above that it's a risk to be sick, and it is. Every scheduled appointment or surgery is cancelled and you have to get really sick, to deal with a life threatening situation, to go to the hospital.

The Health Minister announced yesterday that they will start getting samples from a large portion of the population, in an effort to find asymptomatic cases which are a "bomb" among the population. The ICUs count less than 100 beds here, so we have to keep the numbers under control. There are people who still go to work, everyday or once a week, and this is not something that helps, in my opinion. Schools are trying to give online lessons to the students, it is a crusade to go to the grocery, and the police is trying to keep an order with those who just don't understand that they mustn't go out without a serious reason.

I'm afraid that even the curves go down, nothing will make things better unless a vaccine is created. Until then, the possibilities for getting infected will always be there, as well as the fear. The most scaring is that we don't know if this virus is like the flu virus, which can hit you again after a few months. And what about its mutation? No one knows. The sure thing is that the world will not be the same ever again.

Our Easter is on 19th of April, but I'm sending my wishes to everyone who celebrates something these days.



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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2020, 03:15:22 PM »
The PA governor announced yesterday that all schools will remain closed for the rest of the school year. It wasn't a great shock because our numbers are still climbing. We are #6 in the list of highest numbers of cases and we've essentially been shut down since mid-March.

Our election has been moved from April until June but the county is having trouble finding poll workers. I applied last week for a mail-in ballot. It took a week for approval. My husband applied this morning.

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2020, 05:09:57 PM »
Some interesting and disturbing things are being revealed by the onset of COVID-19. One, three in ten Americans believe that this virus was created in a lab.
Nearly three-in-ten Americans believe COVID-19 was made in a lab | Pew Research Center

Besides the gluttonous toilet paper purchases, a whole lot of misinformation is coming not only from social media, but from the corporate media, about this pandemic. As fear comes down like mighty waters, any little fake factoid about "cures" and "remedies" come from everywhere. Or so it seems.

Another unfortunate result of this COVID-19 is the fact that more African-Americans are falling victim to this disease. I am not really surprised by this.  ::) :(
If COVID-19 Doesn’t Discriminate, Then Why Are Black People Dying at Higher Rates?

There will have to be many issues addressed after the "cure," meaning vaccine for this disease, and things get back to "normal." Not any more hand wringing, and pretending that this won't happen again because it will--and it will be much worse. I am not speaking doomsday. although the clock has moved closer to midnight. >:(
How Will the Coronavirus End? - The Atlantic

I hear on the big media machine that we are all one in this "war" against COVID-19. Sounds faintly like post September 11th words, almost 19 years ago. And look what happened since then. Standing together--can that be said of the poor, homeless, those in jails and prisons, the children in cages at the Mexican border, and other unfortunate folk. Am I being controversial for saying what I see, and not living in some Peter Cottontail fantasy world?

How do I feel--calm on one minute, watchful on the next, wondering what situation will happen next.


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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2020, 04:04:49 AM »
For everyone here,

Let me start by saying this pandemic is something that hasn't really been seen in a century. Yes, the H1N1 flu in 2009 was also a pandemic, and I had the joy of catching it given not enough vaccines available, but that's not anywhere near what we're experiencing now. And, we're all experiencing it differently. Lots of variables play into how someone experiences this, but at the end of the day, generally speaking, we are all normal people having normal reactions to an abnormal situation. Of course, if someone is causing harm to themselves or others, then it's appropriate to reach out to someone that can help. But outside of those circumstances, there's a full gamut of things we can experience from the stress we're experiencing here. Headaches, difficulty sleeping, anxiety, feeling overwhelmed...

In other words, you're not crazy.

And while I can't provide a single way to go about navigating this pandemic, I can offer some of my perspectives, and some ideas that perhaps may help.

One of the items I try to message when teaching others about emergency preparedness is striking a balance between being prepared and going overboard. The messaging some time ago was be ready with 3 days (72 hours) of supplies, and I liked to suggest adding a zero after that 3. Not that you need 30 days worth of supplies on hand, but think about longer term rather than short. The reasoning? If there is a large-scale incident, such as a major earthquake in the Seattle area, it's going to take more than 3 days for things to get stood up. Yes, government and volunteer resources are going to mobilize and start coming in to provide aid, but in this earthquake example, a lot of infrastructure will be lost, and it'll take more than 3 days to mobilize resources and supplies, get these into the area, and prepare distribution points.

How can you take that and apply it to this pandemic? Luckily, our infrastructure is still flowing, even when operating with only essential services. Before all this happened, I would typically buy groceries for about 3 or 4 days worth of time, and then make another trip to buy another 3 or 4 days worth, and so on. I could buy fresh ingredients and make meals with them without worrying about them spoil. Now, thinking more long-term, I'm buying food and supplies for a week-and-a-half at a time. I'm minimizing my time out in public, which being here in Dallas, there are quite a few people shopping, especially Fri-Sun, so I try to focus on Tuesday or Wednesday mid-day when foot traffic is lower and grocery stores have had time to restock from weekend sales.

The other side of this I'd like to talk about is staying informed, and more importantly, not burning out from it. I'm personally trying to balance how much info I take in each day. I also try to take a global look, which means maybe CBS/NBC/something evening news for the United States update, NHK World out of Japan for the Asia update, DW from Germany for the Europe/Africa update, and maybe Sky News for the UK (although DW does a good job at covering). But those all add up to about a half hour of time for any given day, each update about 10 minutes long. And then I'm done. From watching those and perhaps reading an online article or two, I can see how the rest of the world is doing, and in the cases where other countries are further along in the timeline than the US, perhaps see what might be coming. And, I can see how things are doing here in the US, with more focus for me on Dallas, Detroit given I have family north of there, and Seattle as I have several friends there.

But then I go about doing other things. I enjoy the amateur radio hobby, so I jump on the air as I normally do each day. I'm playing video games, I'm working on website updates, I'm working on various other things I'd normally work on from home. And this is important - the more you can do to bring some sense of normalcy, the more normal things will feel. If you enjoy reading a book, or knitting, or other hobbies/interests you can take time with at home, go for it. If you hold religious or spiritual beliefs, seek an online option for church services or spiritual services. If you are home with family, gather around the dinner table and enjoy a meal together, and talk about how everyone is doing, if they want to. It's important to let folks have distance that want distance, and be there to listen (and not talk - you can't spell listen without silent) for those that would like someone to listen. Call your family members, hop on FaceTime/Facebook Messenger/whatever and say hello to friends...

When this all ends, and someday it will (hang in there), I'll look back at what worked well, and what improvements I can make to our emergency preparedness plans. I've taken several Chemical/Biological/Radiological/Nuclear/Explosive preparedness and response courses, but thy're of course nothing like going through an incident directly (and each incident will be different). For this biological incident, I'm happy with how we've hunkered down at home, but I would have liked more food in the freezer, and by extension, a bigger freezer. Normally we would have an additional freezer, but we're in an apartment while we build a new house, so we're going without extra freezers and things, which, in hindsight, is inconvenient timing, but when the house is done and we move in, I'll plan better as a result. And no, I won't dedicate rooms to storing canned food or whatnot - there is a line between overpreparing and reasonably preparing. If I can have enough food on hand for 30 days, that to me is a good balance.

While I had already believed in self-reliance as much as possible, I'll look at doubling down on the idea where it makes sense, so not only extra food on hand, but perhaps buying other household supplies a little earlier before they run out. We luckily skipped out on the toilet paper rush, which was completely unnecessary, but it happened, and we mainly skipped it because I had recently bought some and those mega-jumbo-gigantic rolls last a long time (I still haven't bought more - we could go another couple of months even). We also have lots of soap on hand, and laundry detergent, and trash bags, and paper towels... but things like pots and pans. I knew the pans were close to wearing out, but I put it off, and then had to replace them during safer-at-home orders. Eventually got them on Amazon, but had to be patient given their shipping prioritization. I also usually have N95 masks, but I was down to about 5 on hand in February and never reordered, and still haven't (I have no business ordering any right now). So those gotchas, I'll look out for better going forward.

And, based on my CBRNE and other preparedness training along with being a state licensed EMS provider (I'm a licensed Emergency Care Attendant, the Texas version of an Emergency Medical Responder), I can see areas where I agree with the response, and areas where I do not agree. I hope government officials will learn from what's happening and set things up so we're better prepared next time. But I'm not going to burn large amounts of time on, "They could have done that better," or, "They're not thinking about <something>," or other things, *right now*. Yeah, I generally comment at things, but right now I want to make sure I'm OK, that my husband's OK, that my parents are OK... they are my priority. I can't control what the government is doing, but I *can* control what I'm doing. Yes, we need more testing, but no amount of screaming that at the TV is going to make it happen, and instead what I can do is make sure I'm staying home, that I'm washing my hands frequently, that I'm avoiding touching my face when I'm out buying groceries, and when I am out buying groceries, have a list, get those items, and get out of the store.

So for now, know that we're all experiencing this in different ways, but we're having normal reactions to this very abnormal circumstance, and as best as you can, try to keep the normalcy in your day-to-day where you can, and balance out staying informed to make sure you don't burn out.

For continued discussion in this thread, there are a lot of political aspects in play, but here on this forum we avoid discussions given the scope of how communicating in an online forum works. There is great potential for good intentions in a political post to be misinterpreted, and then things spiral into name-calling or calling each other idiots or whatever... I've seen it in other forums. Yes, it's important to look at the political aspects and ask leaders about what we feel were/are deficiencies in the planning and response, but we're not going to solve those here in this thread. And at the same time, it's hard to say what the future will look like, and while we are and will continue to see economical impact from all this, the number one priority right now (and always, for that matter) is your health, that you're OK.

And what we can do in this thread to help each of us be OK is, if you want to, to talk about how you are doing, how you are feeling, ideas on how to help manage stress, how to navigate this new environment we're in, and support each other as we all go through this.

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Re: COVID-19--how you you doing during this Pandemic
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2020, 02:14:35 PM »
I find that ignoring this COVID-19 is all but impossible. Looking for a la-la land just isn't in the cards now. Once the vaccine or serum is found and distributed, maybe the world can go back into a "back to business as usual" world (which I hope we don't). There are issues about the future of this planet which must be resolved--i.e. climate crisis, nuclear war, poverty, starvation, bigotry, etc. Or at least try to find solutions to these problems. ::)

In the midst of pandemics and plagues, there is nothing more than the corporate media wants than go back Hollywood, scandals, terrorism. The good old standbys--remember Harvey Weinstein, Me too, etc. etc.  :o

Once this COVID-19 is resolved, and it will, like September 11th "goodwill," things will go back to "normal."  Forget "new normal." People will be in the bars, restaurants, stadiums, festivals, parades, New Year's celebrations, state fairs, etc.they'll be hugging and kissing,  family gatherings, all sorts of socializing around the earth. How wonderful, how magical, how necessary.

Right now, people have got to patient (what a concept) and vigilant. Money assistance to the millions of workers who still can't go back will definitely be needed.  :'(

I guess we gotta keep hope alive, in the words of Jesse Jackson.