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Title: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on August 21, 2009, 11:04:11 PM
When I write my zeros, I tend to draw a slash through them.  It stems from seeing zeros drawn this way on my old Radio Shack TRS-80 and earlier 8088 IBM PC Clone machines (anyone remember WordStar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordStar)?), and I do it today to help me know it's a zero, and to help keep people from changing the number (such as from a zero to an 8 on a check - yes I still write checks).  For a comparison, here's how zero looks with the Lucida Console font (left) and the Consolas font (right) - I write my zeros like on the right:

     (https://www.landzdown.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aaronhulett.com%2Fforumimages%2Fzeros.png&hash=02cbf4674e6a3f0d5d5880a1d2699d03)

I'm discovering, though, that people are mistaking this for a six rather than a zero, which is starting to impact things, such as the address on things I receive in the mail (where there's a 6 rather than a 0).

So I'm curious, am I one of a very few that slash their zeros?  Do I need to bother doing so (a.k.a. should I take the tin foil hat off)?  How do you write 'em?

Thanks,
//A
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: winchester73 on August 21, 2009, 11:20:37 PM
I slash them as well ...  :D

I started as a kid with amateur ham radio where it was important to distinguish between the letter O and the number 0.  I've noticed that the problem continues to this day since it is often difficult to easily tell the difference between the two in most type fonts. I'm still in the habit of always saying "zero" instead of "oh".

I've never had checks confused with a 6 instead of a 0, perhaps you are putting a small loop or bump at the top unintentionally?
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Corrine on August 21, 2009, 11:47:19 PM
I also slash zeros, but do make sure the slash goes through the zero.  Another method is putting a dot in the center of the zero.  Additionally, I write the number seven as 7 and prefer the European date format, making today 20 August 2009. Much less confusion that way.
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: winchester73 on August 22, 2009, 12:08:23 AM
I also write my 7's that way, the line through the middle clearly differentiating the seven from the number one.  I date my checks in the European style as well.  Scary how alike we all are.   :blink:
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Corrine on August 22, 2009, 12:26:50 AM
Scary how alike we all are.   :blink:

It certainly is.  Perhaps its a geek thing since we're not all of the same generation. 
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Basementgeek on August 22, 2009, 02:25:51 AM
I always write dates i.e. 20 August 2009, the military taught me that.

BG
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Basil on August 22, 2009, 06:17:09 AM
I write my zeros without a line or dot in the middle. I must admit, however I often get confused between a zero and the letter "o". Especially when I type software activation codes. That is why I try to copy and paste.

I write the number 7 without a line when in the UK, but with a line when visiting another country like Greece or France.

I prefer the European style of a date (16 Aug. 2009).....The US style often confuses me..... :uhm: My problem when reading dates, is that I am not sure if they have been written in the US or European style.....All very confusing....... :wub:
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: GR@PH;<'S on August 22, 2009, 06:20:25 AM
Aaron Hulett - MSFT,
Well it looks to me as we all wite our zero's with a slash in them mind you I must admit I liked the idea of
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putting a dot in the center of the zero
from Corrine we have never had any of them mistaken as a 6 or 8.
And Never been called a geek before  :tease: as both Netty and I both Slash our 7's .
oh and we both use the  European date format but then living in the UK I guess we would (https://www.landzdown.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.getsmile.com%2Femoticons%2Ffunny-smileys-68129%2Fsee%2520no%2520evil.gif&hash=83535e132c129e4145055808edb5e0e9)

GR@PH;<'S   :Hammys pint:
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: R-C on August 22, 2009, 03:09:51 PM
I as normal writing do not slash mine but when keeping track of certain code or passwords I sometimes do if I think there might be confusion.  My husband is a CPA/CFO so deals with numbers constantly and he does slash his zeros diagonally but extends past the edge of the number, his 7 is pretty distinctive  and does not slash.
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Eric the Red on August 22, 2009, 09:32:23 PM
I have always written my zeroes and sevens with a slash (one that extends either side of a zero) but I guess that this is as a result of my Icelandic heritage, it's the way I was taught to write them. Being European I use the European date format except when I am posting here; previous misinterpretation by some of our readers means that I will post as "August 22, 2009" rather than "22/08/2009".
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on August 23, 2009, 06:24:22 AM
I tend to write my 1s like a lower-case l unless I need to ensure clarity, then I write them like the 1 here with a line on the bottom.  7 is always 7 with no line.  And dates, DD Mon YYYY for me - 23 Aug 2009.  Apparently I just need to be more clear with my slashed zeros.  Glad to know they're somewhat mainstream and that I'm not the sole slasher. ;)

//A
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: GR@PH;<'S on August 23, 2009, 06:49:07 AM
Aaron Hulett - MSFT,
As you some times have clarity problems may I suggest that you try a little exercise,
Try writing a few cheques using  your 7 .1 and your  0 make them out to Hammy  :cheers2:(https://www.landzdown.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.getsmile.com%2Femoticons%2Ffunny-smileys-68129%2Fspying.gif&hash=76accaaea72ae384bf6658cb65cb2f7d)

GR@PH;<'S   :Hammys pint:
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on August 23, 2009, 07:59:38 AM
LOL I'll get right on that :P
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: GR@PH;<'S on August 24, 2009, 06:17:35 AM
Aaron Hulett - MSFT,
After chequing them all my self I will ask the nice young lady at my local bank to re-cheque  :mitch:

GR@PH;<'S   :Hammys pint:
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Niecarrah on August 25, 2009, 06:36:14 AM
I never use a slash on my 0's or my 7's but I dealt with military contracts for many years and always write dates ie: 08/02/2009 and for years time was in military time ie: 18:00, but after some years have gotten away from that part.
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Temmu on August 26, 2009, 04:04:09 PM
zero's slashed only in serial numbers.
some, not many, companies have the good sense not to use 1's and l's and o's and zeros in their serial numbers. 
for example, no l's and no o's.
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Blue55 on September 07, 2009, 08:16:16 AM
Unless it's a situation where it could only be numbers or only be letters, I slash the zeros.
I lost points in high school basic and COBOL otherwise, didn't everyone ?  :D
I've managed to drift away from the 7 slashing, but I do write them very obviously.

If I have to be specific about the need for a space, I will still put in a little b with a diagonal slash thru it.
Strangely, not everyone knows what that means. (blank)

I'll just say "oh" but only in situations where it could only be all numbers,
   otherwise it's zero and O as in Oscar....
I turn it on and off otherwise I would sound weird too often. (lost cause?)
Same as Zeros. If it's limited to numbers, I try to blend in with the "normals".
I'm voting for it being a geek thing.

I do hate it when they mix it up when it isn't necessary.

When I'm writing down a code, and just certain letters are capitalized, I don't rely on my writing.
I unDerLiNe just those letters which are caPitolS.

I don't slash nice and neat, staying in the lines like Aaron.
I can see how that might be mistaken for 8s or 6s, depending on the penmanship.
I slash corner to corner of the imaginary box. That's no 8 fer sure.
It's how I was taught but only in programming classes.
The other teachers just quietly tolerated it (but understood it, so I couldn't be the only one)
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Blue55 on September 07, 2009, 08:41:55 AM
...Same as Writing Zeros. If it's limited to numbers, I try to blend in with the "normals"....

(Where do I vote for more time with the modify button ?)
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: GR@PH;<'S on September 07, 2009, 06:04:04 PM
Blue55,
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Where do I vote for more time with the modify button

Sorry but we have a limit to 5 minutes due to the nature of our site.
However if you ned an edit after that time you are more then welcome to PM me or one of the other Amins ,
we will gladly edit for you :cheers2:

GR@PH;<'S   :Hammys pint:
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Blue55 on September 07, 2009, 06:17:29 PM
Seems like a lot of trouble. I hate to bother you.

I can manage so long as I don't get busted for Double Posting.
By design (now) there are limited choices.
It's not like I'm trying to bump so I don't think I'll get yelled at.
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: GR@PH;<'S on September 07, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
Blue55,
You can double post you I'll let you (https://www.landzdown.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmilies.sofrayt.com%2Ffsc%2Fsunglasses2.gif&hash=5a9bd475dbdb929a9c688c41133b60c2) but honest it is no trouble for me to edit a post for you
 :goodie:

GR@PH;<'S   :Hammys pint:
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Blue55 on September 07, 2009, 06:37:08 PM
 :wub: That is sweet, Thanks  
       But back on topic.


Do we think it's a geek thing ?

If so, is it an "older" experienced geek thing or do the freshly bred ones slash too ?

Any young pups out there to answer ?  :hallo:
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Blue55 on October 05, 2009, 04:13:31 AM
Hmmm,
the silence seems to confirm my hypothesis.
Title: Re: Do you slash your zeros?
Post by: Corrine on October 05, 2009, 12:50:04 PM
No young pups, just a lot of old experienced dogs.  :lol: