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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2006, 07:45:08 PM »
And I just thought...it might be different for you then for me.  For example you said to click File, you would click Alt F...but that brings up favorites here.  Remember I have a swedish version of XP.  So for us File is Arkiv....so I would click Alt A for that one.

So I don't know if the back button, and refresh would be the same, as what you would use on an english version.

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2006, 12:44:57 PM »
Skittlepsc,

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You know, I really shouldn't complain about my hands.

A person is wise to pay attention to hand/wrist symptoms if they are using a computer for prolonged periods of a day.

Easier to adjust a computer area if a symptom is left or right sided only, as opposed to bilateral=both sides.

Current worse symptoms are right sided, but you mention symptoms in the past that are bilateral, so your solution should focus on total body alignment to your computer area with the goal of neutral postions, (of wirsts, spine, neck, etc).

You don't need to buy new equipment to accomplish some of these things.

Since you mention you are of short stature, you can find books or flat box to use as footrest if your feet aren't on the ground.

The link that Corrine sited:
http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/ErgoTips2002/home.html
has many good tips on getting into neutral positions.

FYI, at that link there is a caution about not using a wrist rest:
http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/ErgoTips2002/where_it_hurts/keyboard4a.htm

The caution is about not using a wrist rest to leave your wrists constantly smashed to the rest, thus restricting blood flow to the hands.

Using bilateral wrist splints/braces at night while you are sleeping (which you can usually buy inexpensively at your local pharmacy) does wonders for allowing good blood flow, which means, promotes faster healing.  Just make sure they aren't on too tight, which would restrict blood flow.

Back to equipment options, there are mice for lefties, righties, and ones you can alternate.  There are mice (or trackballs) w/ programmable buttons, not just a scroll wheel.  So you can program one of the buttons to do frequently used tasks, like the Back button.
You can program that Back button to be one of the buttons on the left side of the device, or program it to a button on the right side of the mouse.  More variety of hand/finger use=less repetition to one particular group of muscles.

Then if you want to get fancy dancy like Corrine, w/ a keyboard/mouse combo, you can program the Back button into a keystroke on the keyboard.  Or maybe there's a keyboard short cut already in standard keyboards for the Back button.
I personally don't use that many keyboard short cuts, esp ones in Swedish, :lol: but you can figure those out by asking, or googling I would think.

If you are dead ending making physical changes/modifications to your computer area until you can identify/buy some new piece of computer equipment, at least focus on the stretches/computer breaks ideas, like at this link under Work Processes:
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/computerworkstations/
OK, now the one thing that I did post, that I wanted to be clickable, won't work.:deadhorse:  I just googled it, and it doesn't come up thru google either.  Oh well, there were some good ideas there for you at osha.gov link, but they must be down.  I'm sure it's not MY posting skills.  :hysterical:

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2006, 12:56:16 PM »
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So Corrine, when you mentioned that this type of sitting and typeing incorrectly, can also effect the shoulders, does that include the shoulder blades?  That is where I have my most problems, when it comes to my upper back or shoulder area.
Could be computer related, could be life related.  Harder question to answer.
Skittle,
For the shoulder blade soreness...try, what I call the gorilla move.  Stand up, bend forward at the waist, and let your arms hang down & make slow gentle circles with your arms.  Just a few at first, and don't force the stretch.  Just let the weight of your arms stretch the area of your upper back/sh blades.  Too much stretch or too often, can irritate if it's flared up.  These are tips that can be guided by a physical therapist if that's an option for you.
And then when you sit back down at the computer, get into good posture.

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2006, 07:00:00 PM »
I perfer to use Via-Voice as oftern as I can but I can not do so all the time so have to type  :hysterical:

Hey GR@PH;<'S,

Are you really using Via-Voice?
I've only used Dragon Naturally Speaking.
These are great options for exploring if your goal is to reduce the amount of keyboarding and mousing, and yet staying functional on the computer.

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2006, 07:34:15 PM »
ripley,
I have used it for 3 years now but unfortunely the version i got is not compatable with my new PC 
and i do mis it as it is like an old friend I am sure that some kind sole wil buy me a new copy for this Easter.

GR@PH;<'S   :breakkie:
press Enter then have a Brandy then if the problem is still there have another Brandy
Q: does it work
A: It does seem to for a few hours at least.

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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2006, 07:57:53 PM »
That's why I mentioned exploring these types of programs.

Very effective for reducing keyboard/mouse repetition, but you really need to do your homework on the compatibility issues first, not only with hardware, but software that you want to use with it.

I see the basic version of Via-Voice is $30 (need to find a dollars to pounds converter), with versions all the way up to almost $200.

However, if one is looking to give your hands a rest and yet maintain the same level of functionality on the computer...they're worth a look.

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2006, 08:00:06 PM »
ripley,
I have used it for 3 years now but unfortunely the version i got is not compatable with my new PC 
and i do mis it as it is like an old friend I am sure that some kind sole wil buy me a new copy for this Easter.

I hope the Easter bunny brings you one!  :flowers:

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2006, 08:01:41 PM »
ripley,
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I hope the Easter bunny brings you one
And i do as i not get chocolate as i diabetic.

GR@PH;<'S   :breakkie:
press Enter then have a Brandy then if the problem is still there have another Brandy
Q: does it work
A: It does seem to for a few hours at least.

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2006, 08:15:09 PM »
ripley,
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I hope the Easter bunny brings you one
And i do as i not get chocolate as i diabetic.

A new Via-Voice is waay better than a dumb ole chocolate bunny any day!  :thumbsup:

You keep working on whoever fills up the Easter basket in your house!

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2006, 08:23:32 PM »
ripley,
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You keep working on whoever fills up the Easter basket in your house

am doing so all i got to do is listern to my self  :hysterical:

GR@PH;<'S   :breakkie:
press Enter then have a Brandy then if the problem is still there have another Brandy
Q: does it work
A: It does seem to for a few hours at least.

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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2006, 08:37:41 PM »
am doing so all i got to do is listern to my self  :hysterical:

Kinda figured that.  Just keep reminding yourself what you said...
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and i do mis it as it is like an old friend

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2006, 07:46:51 PM »
Another input device option for those seeking to prevent RSI (Repetitive Strain Injuries), if you are mousing for extended periods.
 
Might be seen by some as overkill, but how many ppl on the computer 5-8 hrs/day, with 2-10 windows open, especially if you are chatting or replying to multiple forum posts, are remembering to take micro breaks and giving your hand/arms/fingers a break?
 
A less expensive way would be to remind yourself to take some brief stretch/relaxation breaks, but as ppl's concentration/focus on computer work at hand, they tend to forget, and specialized hardware as well as software, like this have surfaced.
 
Hooverstop Ergonomic Mouse detects if your hand is on the mouse. It then monitors if you are actually using it (clicking, scrolling). If you are not using it for more than 10 seconds, it will vibrate softly to remind you to take your hand away and relax. This will give you many (micro)breaks per hour. Meanwhile you continue to work normally (thinking, reading), without being disturbed. If you need the mouse again, just pick it up to resume work.
 
More about this device here: http://www.hoverstop.com/eng/themouse.php
 
For those more interested, a brief list of the different types of Repetitive Strain Injuries and 3/4 down the page is an interesting discussion on "Physical effects on muscle and tendon groups of mouse use...and Mouse Arm Syndrome:"
 
http://www.hoverstop.com/eng/rsi.php

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Re: Ergonomic Computer Area
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2006, 11:11:15 AM »
Hi Friends,
Regarding keyboard shortcuts, not too long ago, I compiled for myself a list of those which are available for the programs I use most often.  One interesting fact about them (well, it's interesting to me, anyway), is that different programs may use different shortcuts for the same action.  Many Windows-based apps share a lot of the same ones, but as skittles said, they are probably different, for programs and os's in different languages.

Unfortunately, after I finished my list, I deleted the links I had to several sources.  (My Favorites menu has become somewhat unwieldy, so once I finished my list, I thought I would have no further need for them.)  And another fact, it seems there exists no one master list of every possible keyboard shortcut, so :smash: bang on my head for that! :tease:   But I can say that there were severeal MS KB articles, one of which was quite extensive.  And I would guess there must be a similar article for your OS version/language.  Also, a Google search would probably yield many sources.

I don't know how your OS works, but in my version of Windows XP Home, many of the more common shortcuts actually appear in the menus.  For example, the File menu on this browser page contains Control O  (Ctrl+O) for Open, (Ctrl+S) for Save, and (Ctrl+P) for Print.  So if you can't find an article, it may be possible to learn "intuitively", at least a few.

The only other comment I could add to this great discussion, is that an Occupational Therapist (OT's) would probably be the best qualified to give medical advice in this area.  Physical therapists (PT's) are best qualified to assist in healilng injuries.  OT's are best qualified to prevent injury (in my opinion).  In the U.S. one normally would need to be referred to an OT by their primary care physician.  But I have no idea how the medical community functions in other countries.

Hope you're feeling better by now, skittles   :breakkie:
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