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Title: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 12, 2020, 04:26:58 AM
I mentioned in another post that I've spun up my Folding@home hardware to take on some COVID-19 related work units. While I am very well into FAH on the DSLReports.com Team Helix team, I'm curious if folks here would be interested in joining a Landzdown.com team?

Folding@home is a distributed computing project. Folks voluntarily donate hardware (computer processor and/or graphics card processor) to taking on parts of projects related to particular protein studies. These project pieces, called Work Units, are what are handed out to volunteers. For example, I have three graphics cards and two CPUs working on Work Units right now. When these WUs are done, the results are uploaded back to Folding@home, and my hardware waits for new WU assignments. If you're curious, I have two GTX 960s, one GTX 970, an Intel i7-6700K, and an Intel i7-5960X running this right now. Yes, they really warm up the place.

I wouldn't recommend running this on laptops - working on WUs generally means running your hardware at 100%, and laptops won't adequately cool under a continuous full workload. You also don't have to run this 100% of the time - you can set it to only work on things while your computer would typically be idle, and when you come back and start using it again the work will pause until things are idle again.

There's info about the project at https://foldingathome.org/. I'm happy to answer questions about Folding@home, and if there's interest from folks here to jump in on the project, I can set up a team so we can see how we're contributing. Again, I've been with the DSLReports.com Team Helix team for many years, so I won't be moving away from there, but I'm happy to set up a team for here and help out.

Use the poll over the next 14 days to let me know if you'd be interested. If there's a good showing, I'll work to make this happen.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Pierre75 on April 12, 2020, 05:02:11 AM
I was/am already running on another team 37053. I am now the only one folding after all these years. Accrued points so far 3732805 WUs 8050 (not sure of end date). I have now another handle on that team. So far 20865 Points and WUs 42 since end of March till today 12 April. I am sure you can pick up both handles on that team.

I would be willing to switch over.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 12, 2020, 05:23:52 AM
I've scrapped the poll and set up the team. I also changed my mind and moved my setup to fold for the LandzDown.com team.

Folding@home team ID 261265

https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/261265

Here we go!!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Pierre75 on April 12, 2020, 06:04:19 AM
Switched over 3 PCs to 261265.   :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 12, 2020, 06:34:32 AM
Awesome! If I could click to like your post, I would.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on April 12, 2020, 02:45:38 PM
Thank you Aaron and Pierre75!  I wish I could participate but I have enough trouble keeping my 2008 devices with their old hardware running as it is. 
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 15, 2020, 02:37:44 AM
Gotcha - yeah, it's possible to limit the number of cores and things, but it does give the hardware a workout.

How about others? Our team's currently ranked 12,216 of 250,485 - would be excited to have you join!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on April 15, 2020, 05:57:48 PM
For those interested but not sure how to get started, I found this guide:  Configuration guide – Folding@home (https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/configuration-guide/) from Folding@Home.org. 
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 17, 2020, 02:04:56 AM
Now at 9,184 of 250,964.

What questions can I answer that would help you decide whether to join or not?
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on April 17, 2020, 03:39:42 PM
Shared at Sysnative in this thread Folding@home now surpases IBM's Summit super computer with 470petaFLOPS in the CoronaVirus fight. (https://www.sysnative.com/forums/threads/folding-home-now-surpases-ibms-summit-super-computer-with-470petaflops-in-the-coronavirus-fight.30869/)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 17, 2020, 04:14:14 PM
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on April 17, 2020, 07:11:51 PM
How about that -- my post resulted in xrobwx71 (Rob) joining both the team and LzD!  His intro topic is here:  Hello to All! (https://www.landzdown.com/meet-greet!/hello-to-all!/).
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 17, 2020, 11:10:54 PM
Welcome to the forum and to the F@H team xrobwx71! With the 3 of us plugging away, our team is now 8,378 out of 251,165 :)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on April 18, 2020, 01:25:27 PM
I only wish I could have brought my 19Mil units with me but, I'll catch up. My home computer has 16 CPU cores and 2 GPU's working on it. +4 computers at work with various hardware configs.

All on Team https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/261265
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on April 18, 2020, 04:30:54 PM
Another Sysnative member joined the team!  He is a Sysnative Forum Moderator, BSOD Kernel Dump Expert and BSOD Academy Instructor Thanks, axe0!  (https://i.imgur.com/Z1RTWQj.png)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on April 21, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
There is another new member of the LzD Folding@home team, ssherjj, who posted at Sysnative that she joined. Sherry is aWindows Insider MVP and a member of both LzD and Sysnative!  (https://i.imgur.com/Z1RTWQj.png)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 21, 2020, 05:18:37 PM
Hi @Corrine

I have joined but I am not seeing my name on this page? https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/261265

Am I doing this right? https://client.foldingathome.org/
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 21, 2020, 05:34:09 PM
Sorry about Corrine. The program is running at medium right now. So it is all working as planned...
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on April 21, 2020, 07:00:01 PM
Even though you indicated it is working as planned, I'm still not seeing your name.  Perhaps Aaron  or one of the other members of the team will know why. 
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 21, 2020, 07:04:57 PM
Well that is what I was wondering...but here is a screenshot just encase. Thank you Corrine!


Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: axe0 on April 21, 2020, 07:19:00 PM
Does anyone know how I can tell F@H to use more resources than when the slider is at full?
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 21, 2020, 07:24:48 PM
Does anyone know how I can tell F@H to use more resources than when the slider is at full?

Hi axe0,

I am not sure...maybe it depends on ones CPU resources? I moved the bar to medium and had to put it back to Light because my CPU temps were at 75 C.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: axe0 on April 21, 2020, 07:34:11 PM
Hi Ssherjj,

I'm mainly running the GPU and at full it's around 40% usage which it can easily handle.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 21, 2020, 07:40:13 PM
Hi Ssherjj,

I'm mainly running the GPU and at full it's around 40% usage which it can easily handle.

Well that sounds good...but you're saying that this program runs on other resources as well?
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 21, 2020, 07:59:55 PM
My GPU use is only 47 C...so that is good!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 21, 2020, 10:09:08 PM
Even though you indicated it is working as planned, I'm still not seeing your name.  Perhaps Aaron  or one of the other members of the team will know why.

Thank you Corrine, I am on the list now. Maybe I just needed to do a Folding scan for awhile to complete one phase?
 :)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 21, 2020, 10:12:49 PM
Hi Ssherjj,

I'm mainly running the GPU and at full it's around 40% usage which it can easily handle.

Well that sounds good...but you're saying that this program runs on other resources as well?

Oops I just scanned the post late last night and I have just read this part ...by Aaron..

Folding@home is a distributed computing project. Folks voluntarily donate hardware (computer processor and/or graphics card processor) to taking on parts of projects related to particular protein studies. These project pieces, called Work Units, are what are handed out to volunteers. For example, I have three graphics cards and two CPUs working on....
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on April 22, 2020, 12:58:21 AM
Glad you got it squared away, Sherry!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: axe0 on April 22, 2020, 10:51:16 AM
Hi Ssherjj,

I'm mainly running the GPU and at full it's around 40% usage which it can easily handle.

Well that sounds good...but you're saying that this program runs on other resources as well?

F@H runs on both the CPU and GPU here, GPU constantly when the computer is on and CPU when idle. When I am working I set the slider to full, and I would like to tell F@H to make more use of the GPU, i.e. use extra from the GPU on top of the slider. I am wondering if that is possible. I don't expect it to be possible, but since the GPU's power is <50% when F@H is using it at full I am hoping to somehow be able to configure F@H in such a way that it could use more of the GPU.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on April 22, 2020, 10:59:23 AM
I know there are "flags" you can mess with but I've always just left it default.


https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/configuration-guide/

Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 22, 2020, 07:38:14 PM
Hi everyone,

First, my apologies - I've been working on a few projects and just wrapped one up (push over the weekend, but glad to see it go live). Let me see if I can help with some questions, and while things may have cleared up, I'll at least explain to help folks know (and future ones, too).

I am not seeing my name on this page? https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/261265

With the massive amount of folks that have jumped in, F@H is overwhelmed, both in compute power available, and the resources they have to manage everyone joined in. The stats pages can take a bit to catch up to things, and sometimes they do go down for periods under the current loads. Plus, you won't appear on the stats page until 1) your machine turns in a work unit, and 2) the servers process that work unit. But looking like everyone that should be there is now there. :)

Does anyone know how I can tell F@H to use more resources than when the slider is at full?
There's no other way to have it take more resources - if you have it at full, it'll max out what you have. But then there's this aspect of it...

I'm mainly running the GPU and at full it's around 40% usage which it can easily handle.

If you're using Task Manager to look at GPU performance, it's not always accurate with that. For a better view, you can download a graphics card optimization/overclocking tool to get better data. See attached image showing Task Manager's 42% vs MSI Afterburner's 97% - the folding just started in this screen grab, so you can see Afterburner showing the jump up to 90-ish percent versus Task Manager hovering right around 40.

If you're using a tool like that, though, and it's only showing 40%, then there are a couple things to consider, such as the folding slot settings in F@H, or if an updated graphics card driver would help (sometimes I find an older driver works *better* for F@H...).

On the extra slot options though...

I know there are "flags" you can mess with but I've always just left it default.

There really aren't any that will have real-world impact. The only one I'd really ever suggest (never tried it myself) is Big Advanced, but only if you have an at least 16-core CPU, and are running Linux (no-go for Windows, boo hiss).

Thank you Ssherjj and axe0 for joining in, and again my apologies for missing your questions for so long.

Regards,
Aaron
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on April 22, 2020, 08:05:30 PM
Thanks Aaron!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 25, 2020, 05:15:10 AM
Still climbing!

4,218 of 252,179
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 26, 2020, 08:32:21 PM
Hi Team,

I am having to drop out of the Folding@home Team because this program uses way to much CPU and the fans are roaring. My system should be able to handle it but it is not working out so well.

Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Triple Helix on April 26, 2020, 08:34:04 PM
Hi Team,

I am having to drop out of the Folding@home Team because this program uses way to much CPU and the fans are roaring. My system should be able to handle it but it is not working out so well.

I would like to help but the same as you I only have Laptops.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 26, 2020, 09:44:08 PM
Understandable, thanks for giving it a go!

And yeah, laptops in general are a rough spot to fold. They can't keep up with the cooling demand.

//A
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Ssherjj on April 26, 2020, 09:47:28 PM
Hi Aaron,

Thank you!

It was fun while it lasted. I have desktops but they are too old to handle this app. as well.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 27, 2020, 07:04:44 PM
Appreciate you (and everyone else) giving it a try!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on April 28, 2020, 10:58:37 PM
1,000 work units!!

And we're at 3,282 of 252,534! Of course, climbing is going to get harder as we move towards the teams that have been at it a long time and/or with lots of members, but we've climbed a lot in a very short time!

//A
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Pierre75 on April 29, 2020, 12:32:37 AM
Great about the points.

I am going to have to cease folding. My PCs just cannot handle it any longer and are close to overheating. They were all bought in the late 2009-2010 - 1 desktop and 2 laptops and I could hear the fans laboring and see core temperatures running above specs even on light setting. With my 30 years work of Family trees on them I was not about to lose that work. They are now running much cooler and no audible fan noise.

I may try one of the laptops again when I get a chance to off-load some of its work.

Sorry about this.  :'( :'(

Peter in Australia.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on April 29, 2020, 04:31:56 PM
https://www.neowin.net/news/cern-contributes-10000-computer-cores-to-the-folding-at-home-project
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on May 11, 2020, 04:22:22 PM
2,000 work units!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on May 22, 2020, 06:52:34 PM
And 3,000 :)

If you haven't pulled client version 7.6.13 in the last week or so (it's fairly new), it seems that the retry timers are more aggressive, meaning if you don't get a work assignment, it doesn't wait quite as long to try again. Some of those wait times were getting really long, but now I'm finding the majority of times I check, I have work assignments across the board, rather than some of them sitting in ready.

//A
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on May 22, 2020, 07:59:07 PM
And 3,000 :)

If you haven't pulled client version 7.6.13 in the last week or so (it's fairly new), it seems that the retry timers are more aggressive, meaning if you don't get a work assignment, it doesn't wait quite as long to try again. Some of those wait times were getting really long, but now I'm finding the majority of times I check, I have work assignments across the board, rather than some of them sitting in ready.

//A
Is this the same version that added COVID19 to the choosable list? I am on 7.6.13 but I got it weeks ago. Should I re-install it?
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on May 22, 2020, 08:07:46 PM
Oh----

(https://i.postimg.cc/BnwsDwgk/Folding-At-Home-wus-certificate-189699-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Aaron Hulett on May 22, 2020, 08:26:14 PM
Is this the same version that added COVID19 to the choosable list? I am on 7.6.13 but I got it weeks ago. Should I re-install it?
Not sure when they added that to the list (I didn't even know it was there). But if you're on 7.6.13, that I do believe is the current one, and no need to reinstall.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on May 23, 2020, 01:35:01 PM
I have a couple of computers, one at work and one at home that dual boot Linux. I have both Linux distros also running when I'm booted there.  The goal is to have a little downtime as possible.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on June 28, 2020, 08:31:54 PM
Ok! I added another computer dedicated for Folding only. It's my old gaming system I gutted the giant case and put it one of those open air test bench things. Looks like crap but it's folding. i7 980X 6 core, GTX 970.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FyKvGPM/IMG-20200628-161112.jpg)

Another thing I use is https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/ software to raise my fan speeds on my Vid cards. It works very well. 
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on September 07, 2020, 01:39:39 PM
Team Rank 963!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: Corrine on September 07, 2020, 03:55:29 PM
That's great!  I just updated the thread (https://www.sysnative.com/forums/threads/folding-home-now-surpases-ibms-summit-super-computer-with-470petaflops-in-the-coronavirus-fight.30869/#post-305012) at Sysnative.
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on September 08, 2020, 05:04:22 PM
Thanks, Corrine!
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on September 08, 2020, 05:08:14 PM
I'm moving my main PC to the RTX 3080 when it releases. I'll move the 2 1080's I have now into the unit in the pic above so we should be crunching some slightly better numbers with that.
Then again, the 3080 may not perform better with Folding, but I think it will.

Corrine, can you merge my 2 posts above? I didn't mean to double post. I simply got excited talking about the RTX 3080  ;D
Title: Re: Folding@home team?
Post by: xrobwx71 on February 22, 2021, 12:03:27 PM
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