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DR M

June 30, 2015, 06:45:20 PM
I know that we are all come from different places, all over the world, but I am sure you have heard about the Greek crisis.

What do you think? Just your opinion about all these happening in this site of the world...

If you think that the topic is political, please close it.
Grecian Geek

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Frands

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June 30, 2015, 07:13:37 PM
I really don't like the situation in Greece. It is a disaster and worse is it that Merkel in Germany already has reacted negative helping Greece economic... geezz
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JDBush61

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July 02, 2015, 12:48:30 AM
Quote from: Frands on June 30, 2015, 07:13:37 PM
I really don't like the situation in Greece. It is a disaster and worse is it that Merkel in Germany already has reacted negative helping Greece economic... geezz

My Greek ex-wife and I co-own a house in Ano Glyfada (just east of Athens). I'm also not happy about the current state of affairs.
Had to pay back loans when all you primarily produce is Kalamata olives, olive oil, and feta cheese.  :wink:
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JDBush61

#3
July 02, 2015, 12:57:50 AM
"...hard to pay back..", not "had"

I must someday learn to type.
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Basil

#4
July 02, 2015, 09:16:15 AM
I can write a lot on the subject but I will avoid it! I will just say that, for their sake,  I hope they stay in the Eurozone, although I can see that this is getting more difficult by the day! :shocked:

However!
Living in the UK, I feel I am in a life boat, watching the Titanic going down... :wub:

MikeW

#5
July 02, 2015, 11:34:05 AM
I think it is a very tough decision for the Greek government and the people.  I have never been a supporter of the eurozone and am very glad the UK stayed out of it.
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DR M

#6
July 02, 2015, 02:12:40 PM
The most important for me is that the Greek people are not working together anymore, to find a solution. Politicians with their word divide the world even more. History shows that the battles are won when people are working all together, with unity. The discord is the beginning of the end. It's true... I'm afraid of the future coming.
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plodr

#7
July 02, 2015, 05:12:45 PM
I have to ask if this is true. I live in the US and my husband is a news junkie so he is up on all the news. One of the commentators on one of the shows has a Greek background (she was born in the US but her parents might have been born in Greece). Anyway she said that people can start collecting pensions at age 42 in Greece. Is that accurate?

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DR M

#8
July 02, 2015, 05:36:22 PM
I just copied and pasted the paragraph from the proper Greek site (Google translation):

The general age limit is 67 years and the minimum insurance period of 15 years (4500 days worked). As a general full retirement condition determines the completion of 40 insurance years (12,000 days of work) and the 62nd year of age.

Full syntax: full retirement eligible if you have completed 40 years of insurance and you're 62 years old.

Reduced pension: entitled to a reduced pension if they have completed at least 4500 days of insurance and you're 67 years old.

There is tendency from the media to give the title of lazy to Greek people, but this is wrong. Surely, there are too many errors in the system and sometimes the mentality is the reason, but a lot of what is said is simply exaggerations or malignancies.

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winchester73

#9
July 02, 2015, 07:49:38 PM
When my wife was in Greece a few years back, the tour guide told her that government employees received 13 months of pay/year versus the standard 12/year in the private sector.  The guide suggested that everyone wanted to get a government job ...
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DR M

#10
July 02, 2015, 08:27:50 PM
Quote from: winchester73 on July 02, 2015, 07:49:38 PM
When my wife was in Greece a few years back, the tour guide told her that government employees received 13 months of pay/year versus the standard 12/year in the private sector.  The guide suggested that everyone wanted to get a government job ...

This is true. It happens in Cyprus (where I live) too. Now, with "Troika's rules" the government employees are the first who saw their salaries getting almost to the half. And this is the problem. Every one made his plans according to a certain salary (loans, purchases, studies etc.). Now, there is no way to pay for all these. And we have people losing their home, their jobs, their hope, stop their studies and trying to find a job that does not exist. All these people are now paying mistakes of the banks and politicians.
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plodr

#11
July 02, 2015, 10:14:54 PM
Thanks Dr M. I copied your reply and will show it to my husband.
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DR M

#12
July 03, 2015, 06:48:44 PM
The polls for the referendum show 50 %YES, 50% NO. Full disunity of the people. My opinion is that the referendum was a big mistake of the Greek government.
Grecian Geek

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"In one of the stars I shall be living. In one of them I shall be laughing. And so it will be as if all the stars will be laughing when you look at the sky at night.. You, only you, will have stars that can laugh..."

winchester73

#13
July 05, 2015, 11:51:54 PM
Results are in. This isn't going to turn out well ...
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plodr

#14
July 06, 2015, 02:56:14 AM
When I see all the countries having financial struggles, I say, "too bad we can't reboot and get a fresh start".
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